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I'm new to omaha and am looking to start posting regular hands and getting involved more in the forums.
Been getting into a few trouble spots and wondering what people think of this hand.
What do you think when this 23/20 player full pots it on the turn? Would he pot it if he had top pair and a dominated flush draw? Is it just standard to get in in here at PLO?

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1777735
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UTG: $28.00
MP: $88.35
CO: $12.85
Hero (BTN): $28.11
SB: $25.10
BB: $20.64

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with K J 4 A
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.10, SB calls $1, BB calls $0.85, MP calls $0.85

Flop: ($4.40) A 7 3 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $3, MP folds, Hero calls $3, SB folds

Turn: ($10.40) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $9.93, Hero folds

Final Pot: $10.40
BB wins $9.93
(Rake: $0.47)

I would raise the flop. You have TPTK with three over-cards to the board, and an okay FD.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: A 7 3
Ah Kc Js 4s 51.13% (303,344 wins, 6,910 ties)
A7, A3, 73, 77, 33, 456, 245 48.87% (289,746 wins, 6,910 ties)

As played, I'd fold turn. He has the straight VERY often.

I would raise the flop. You have TPTK with three over-cards to the board, and an okay FD.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: A 7 3
Ah Kc Js 4s 51.13% (303,344 wins, 6,910 ties)
A7, A3, 73, 77, 33, 456, 245 48.87% (289,746 wins, 6,910 ties)

As played, I'd fold turn. He has the straight VERY often.

So you're raise/calling? I def. think that's a mistake, as your flipping at best and crushed every time he has a higher FD. The only thing good thing about raising, is you'r getting it HU.

I'm flatting flop instead. folding turn cuz sizing

i lose all the time in silly situations like this, but its so clear later when i review my HH, i should try not losing next time, lol GL

Well played all around. Best to use our position in a small pot and see a turn since we usually always get it bad when we jam the flop. The pot is small and it's 4-handed so people are rarely spewing light.

Depending on reads on BB and SB I might fold this on the flop.

So you're raise/calling? I def. think that's a mistake, as your flipping at best and crushed every time he has a higher FD. The only thing good thing about raising, is you'r getting it HU.

I'm flatting flop instead. folding turn cuz sizing

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: A 7 3
Ah Kc Js 4s 52.04% (307,696 wins, 9,066 ties)
A7, A3, 73, 77, 33, 456, 245, Kss, AKss 47.96% (283,238 wins, 9,066 ties)

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: A 7 3
Ah Kc Js 4s 52.04% (307,696 wins, 9,066 ties)
A7, A3, 73, 77, 33, 456, 245, Kss, AKss 47.96% (283,238 wins, 9,066 ties)

This range is totally unrealistic since it includes every combo of those hands (7773, T273, etc) and it assumes that they are shipping all of these which would never happen (naked inside wraps and bottom two). Against the average villain range we probably have 40% at best (definitely less the better they are). Calling allows us to play the hand far more optimally by seeing a turn in position with a good effective stack behind us. There is no need to throw away our positional advantage here.

Yeah you're right. I'm not entirely sure what I was thinking to be honest. I guess I personally am looking to be more aggressive with mid strength hands, so I was kind of looking at the most aggressive line and trying to justify it.

Rethinking things I'd probably just fold the flop. If you hit top two and he bets will you go all in? What if you hit your flush and he bets? Our hand will always have some not-so-great qualities to it, even when we make our hand. So, because of that I would fold. Also, if we hit our flush we are either going to get called by better or not get paid if we hit.

What you can do in your PPT syntax to keep things more realistic is put your whole range in brackets and put a &_% at the end, like (77**, 33**)&40%. What that does is make sure that all hands within those brackets are in the chosen percentile, or whatever VPIP you assign to villain. It avoids the inclusion of junk like 7772 and other hands that no one plays.

What you can do in your PPT syntax to keep things more realistic is put your whole range in brackets and put a &_% at the end, like (77**, 33**)&40%. What that does is make sure that all hands within those brackets are in the chosen percentile, or whatever VPIP you assign to villain. It avoids the inclusion of junk like 7772 and other hands that no one plays.

Really nice tip, thanks. Didn't know that and I use PPT pretty often.

Multi-way with just TPTK and the only redraw is to non-nut flush is going to be difficult .
You Got position so a call and see for some pot control would go down well maybe.
Easy fold on turn for me as we can rarely be good

Thanks Teahupoo! That is a really helpful feature I didn't know about.

rreally nice tip too. Im still learning how to use the ppt and those syntax are really complicated...Would like to see some videos on that..