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PLO25: Facing Flop Donk on Possible Straight Board

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AAKKds

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Joined 12/2011

Merge - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $16.14
MP: $7.96
Hero (CO): $30.79 28/20 AF 2.94
BTN: $40.61
SB: $64.72 50/13 AF 2.38
BB: $22.08

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has TSpade ADiamond 3Diamond ASpade

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, SB calls $0.65, fold

Flop: ($1.75, 2 players) 6Spade 7Club 3Heart
SB bets $1.31, Hero calls $1.31

Turn: ($4.37, 2 players) QDiamond
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.37, 2 players) 8Spade
SB bets $3.27, Hero calls $3.27

Would you call flop and/or river? I called flop thinking that villain knows I CBet a good amount of the time, so why would he donk with a strong made hand? I think looking back at the hand I should have bet OTT for protection against any draws. OTR, when the 8 falls, I think that it's a good card for villain to bluff and if he had a hand like 89** he would turn it into a bluff. I also have a T blocker.

Let me know what you think. Thanks!

Posted 12 months ago

PeteH

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I just fold the flop. If you're behind you don't have many (if any) outs and you'll have to fold if he bets the turn. If he doesn't has you beat, he probably has wrap that's flipping with you.

On the river I fold too. I think if 50/13 donks the flop with a draw, it's much more likely a wrap than just an OESD.

Posted 12 months ago

Dutch45

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Joined 03/2010

Without a read I'll often just fold here; however, this is somewhat opponent dependent from my experience in this game. A lot of guys with stats like this have figured out that low flops don't connect with many preflop raising ranges, though you are on the button here which will widen your range, if villain puts this together, and they'll donk here once with a lot of stuff like a bare overpair and other air and give up on the turn. Given that there are some cards we don't mind seeing on the turn and we have position, if we think he is this kind of opponent, I don't mind calling the flop. That said, I think villain will also do this with a lot of his range that actually does hit this board as well so I expect we'll have to fold on the turn a decent amount. A lot of these opponents will also give away what they're flop donk means with bet sizing too, so if we fold, I watch for future instances that get shown down and see what information we can pick up.

As played and as you mentioned, definitely bet turn. On the river I would also fold. We do have a T blocker but I doubt villain has a fundamental idea of the hand he's trying to represent and so if he bet flop with like a pair and straight draw and now rivered 2 pair he's probably betting not really knowing if he's value betting or bluffing.

Posted 12 months ago




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