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$4PLO - Squeeze OOP in SB

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StraitBizness

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In this hand, I 3b with T987ss OOP vs. a regular TAG and an assumed loose-passive. I wasn't sure what to do in this hand, so I decided to try 3-betting it and post the hand later. My thought process isn't so great here, so you probably can point out why/when this is good/bad. Smile

http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1569729

Pros
-This hand does well in 3b pots with low SPR's.
-Low SPR minimizes my opponents positional advantage.
-I can possibly get the hand HU and a small % of the time steal preflop.
-When I c-bet, I will usually flop some decent equity.
-My hand will probably be disguised, because it looks like AAxx
- I can call a 4b if PFR'er has AAxx

Cons
-I will be forced to c-bet a lot vs. 2 opponents
-My reads about how they will react are non-existent.
-I'll be OOP no matter what.

Posted over 1 year ago

ShuffleNCut

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Hands that play well in 3bet pots with lower SPR are hands that have more raw preflop equity. This includes high pairs and hands with high cards. A good way to determine the relative value of a hand would be to use the rank feature on Pro Poker Tools. With the hand you have here you're going to find your opponents are smashing you with hands like KJ87 that they're calling preflop assuming you have AA** but in reality have you as a 60:40 dog. When they flop a random pair and get it in vs your presumed AA** you'll often find yourself on the wrong side of flips. If this were NLH and people folded a lot more then a 3b OOP with a hand like T9s might be fine. People just don't fold enough at the micros to make speculative 3betting OOP as good.

That being said, I'm fine with a 3bet in position as you have a lot more control over how often you realize your equity with this somewhat drawy hand. Adding this type of hand to your range will make it much harder for the errant reg who's paying attention to play against you.

As played I wouldn't cbet quite so big on this sort of a board. Either your opponents smashed it or they didn't. You're repping AA so your opponents will likely not continue past the flop without a K whether you bet 75% pot or 50% pot.

Posted over 1 year ago

DaMay85

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so is this a fold pre? being OOP in a multiway pot with this kind of non-nut hand can get us into trouble (at least thats what I learned from videos - playing nut hands oop)

Posted over 1 year ago

StraitBizness

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Thanks Shuffle. Yeah, I knew this couldn't be for value when I did it, and I sort of came to the conclusion that IP it would be a great idea, while OOP was not so much the same lol.

I suppose I was confused about the SPR, because I knew suited rundowns flopped well. I come from a NLHE background so I knew hands like AK and TT functioned well with a low SPR...but don't know why I didnt figure that our for PLO.

I didn't know about that rank feature on PPT. That will really help me out down the road.

@DaMay85, we can cold call OOP here, because our hand does make nut straights/nut wraps. Our non-nut flush potential is just an added bonus, but not our main reason for playing the hand.

Posted over 1 year ago

strukl

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so is this a fold pre? being OOP in a multiway pot with this kind of non-nut hand can get us into trouble (at least thats what I learned from videos - playing nut hands oop)


not a fold,either call or 3bet.i would call here cause i think you have no fold equity preflop and i think it's more profitable to see a cheap flop here and go with a lot of flops that hit you.
as played i would c-bet smaller ,they don't have AA cause they would 4bet pf,so either a K or air(lower pairs included),which i think they fold for a lower bet here

Posted over 1 year ago




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