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buddy_reno

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Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 325433
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SB: $32.30
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $49.50
CO: $13.95
BTN: $52.15

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with A Spade K Club J Club Q Spade
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $1, SB calls $0.75, Hero raises to $4.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($10.50) 9 Diamond J Heart 4 Spade (2 players)
Hero bets $8, BTN calls $8

Turn: ($26.50) J Spade (2 players)
Hero bets $17, BTN calls $17

River: ($60.50) 3 Club (2 players)
Hero bets $20.50 all in, BTN calls $20.50

Final Pot: $101.50
Hero shows A Spade K Club J Club Q Spade (three of a kind, Jacks)
BTN shows A Heart 9 Club 9 Spade 3 Heart (a full house, Nines full of Jacks)
BTN wins $99.50
(Rake: $2.00)


I haven't played PLO in a long time. 1st hand at the table all unknowns. Is the 3bet pf standard even OOP? Am I OK going for 3 streets of value here or should I c/f somewhere?

Posted over 2 years ago

delcrossb

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There is no worse hand that will ever call your river shove, I usually just c/call these sorts of rivers. His play is really weird since he should mostly be shoving the flop, but whatever.

This is mostly a standard-ish cooler. By the time the pot is so big on the river you really can't get away from the hand. If you were 200BB deep this becomes more of an interesting spot.

Posted over 2 years ago

heh

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Joined 02/2009

I'd bet more on flop and pot turn.

As played, you should definitely c/c as you are never getting called by worse but will often get bluffed into by broken draws.

Posted over 2 years ago

lonely_squirrel

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I think it's fine, I like the river bet because of the stack sizes. A worse jack will call the river but probably won't bet, and hands like QQ/KK/AA might call for 1/3 pot but also won't bet.

I think that there aren't very many missed draws in his range here, and its hard for him to show up with an airball, because the board paired on the turn. The TQK wrap for instance, it's got to fold the turn especially as the gap card paired and if it hits it can't know if it's good.

Posted over 2 years ago

zanton

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I think it's fine, I like the river bet because of the stack sizes. A worse jack will call the river but probably won't bet, and hands like QQ/KK/AA might call for 1/3 pot but also won't bet.

I think that there aren't very many missed draws in his range here, and its hard for him to show up with an airball, because the board paired on the turn. The TQK wrap for instance, it's got to fold the turn especially as the gap card paired and if it hits it can't know if it's good.


I agree with the second part, so what do we beat ? A worse jack and that's all I guess.

I think it's more a question of bet sizing here, especially on the turn. What do we do if he raises the turn ? We probably have 9-10 outs so we need something like 4 to 1, and by betting $17 we're giving ourself the odds to call.

Basically we have to decide if we want to play for our stack on the turn.
We have the nut flush draw and a jack, so I can't really see any hand we beat calling us, even a worse jack.

I'd like to here your thoughts because this spot is interesting imo.

Posted over 2 years ago

Adaptation

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I dont see much wrong here... The turn bet puts weird stack sizes. River is probably slightly better check call because he might attempt a bluff shove with a missed fd or straight draw(a 3-to 1 bluff shove is pretty good spot for him). However the rest of the hand is fairly standard.

Posted over 2 years ago

lonely_squirrel

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I agree with the second part, so what do we beat ? A worse jack and that's all I guess.



Yeah but if every single boat bets the river and you are calling, then it doesn't matter if you just stick the last of your stack in yourself. It's no worse than check-calling but has exactly this advantage. And that's not a tiny part of villain's range either.

Posted over 2 years ago




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