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conflicting reasons to bet/ check turn


esporro

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Pre Flop I just want to call here since stacks are so small.

On the flop I call as I am in position on this guy who is fishy.

On the turn is what had me thinking
Im happy with my value bet as when he checks I think he is drawing a lot and not that strong. But I was quite concerned by the posibility of facing a check raise I think in this case he usually has a boat also some bare Q's and a small amount of flush draws and double flush draws. I feel like im put in a tough spot which I think im calling off but maybe not too happy about it. Is this reason enough to check behind or is betting better.

Also any comments on bet sizing?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 923707
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $47.30
SB: $10.00
BB: $37.65
UTG: $30.30
MP: $21.60
CO: $24.25

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 9 Spade Q Club J Club A Heart
UTG raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1

Flop: ($6.00) 2 Heart Q Spade 8 Spade (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $3.50, UTG folds, Hero calls $3.50, SB folds

Turn: ($13.00) Q Heart (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7

Posted over 1 year ago

5carab

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I'd probably bet slightly larger (around $9) but looks ok.

Posted over 1 year ago

four

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Is this a good hand to cold call pre flop?

It looks pretty but it flops a lot of marginal hands, 3rd nut flush draws, dominated pairs, dominated two pairs.

I'd raise it, but not sure I like cold calling with it...

As played, he can have a lot of draws so I like to bet, I'd make it a little larger as 5carab suggested, tricky if he shoves though with stack sizes.

Posted over 1 year ago

esporro

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Thanks for your replies

ok yeah i dont want to 3b because opponents are all around half stack and it sucks to get 4b. Im not sure what is right but i think i like calling it on the button.

Those reasons you gave for not calling it are less important as effective stacks are shallow.

The concern I had with raising is that it puts me in a spot where I can be faced with a pretty tough decision. So I do think raising is better because its important to value bet against flush draws and that I arent getting check raised enough that this is too much of a concern.

Posted over 1 year ago

5carab

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Is this a good hand to cold call pre flop?

It looks pretty but it flops a lot of marginal hands, 3rd nut flush draws, dominated pairs, dominated two pairs.

I'd raise it, but not sure I like cold calling with it...

As played, he can have a lot of draws so I like to bet, I'd make it a little larger as 5carab suggested, tricky if he shoves though with stack sizes.



I think you under-estimate our hand. We can actually flop quite a few dominant hands with this and given we have the button playing is a must imo. I think it's certainly a spot we could 3-bet and perhaps we should given our lack of a suited A (being HU with position and the lead would be nice and it's a really easy fold to a 4-bet). I wouldn't consider folding though, that's ungodly nitty and I'm looking for any excuse to play my button. AQJ9 w/ a Q flush draw is more than enough.

Posted over 1 year ago

four

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Don't get me wrong,I like the hand in position, but being the cold caller here sets up a lot of tricky post flop spots, whether you are comfortable or not I guess Wink

Posted over 1 year ago

delcrossb

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Cold calling preflop is fine and if he opens a tight range UTG we will be better off flat calling rather than 3betting since we want to be able to rep a wider range on the flop and potentially move him off a hand that is similar in character to ours. With position there isn't a lot of RIO for our 3rd nut FD and we can play better with more stack depth behind as compared to 3betting.

Posted over 1 year ago

Schweig

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Folding this pre would be way too tight; it has very good flopping potential in terms of straight draws and also two pair/trips/fullhouse kinda hands due to its rank. If we had a dangler instead of the 9 then it's a fold, but the cards in AQJ9 just work too well together in making up extra postflop equity and playability.

Our hand on the turn is way too strong to consider checking behind; we likely are good; there's certainly a lot of worse trips or flush draws that we can get value out of.

Posted over 1 year ago

Leroy2DaBeroy

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HRPaperstacks

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Congrats esporro on getting a DC short for this post! I was really glad to see it because I thought this hand had very good discussion value.

Posted over 1 year ago




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