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Poker Video: Pot-Limit Omaha by DJ Sensei (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:57:44

N00b Question here...but would you only make this flop call if IN Position?

Thanks!

N00b Question here...but would you only make this flop call if IN Position?

Thanks!

Somewhat tough question since I'd never play this hand OOP. Generally speaking I'd have to say I wouldn't check call OOP, but I also hate leading a hand like this because of the RIO of making a third nut flush. I'd probably c/f OOP, like if I got this one for free in the BB or something.

Great episode. Thanks guys.

Somewhat tough question since I'd never play this hand OOP. Generally speaking I'd have to say I wouldn't check call OOP, but I also hate leading a hand like this because of the RIO of making a third nut flush. I'd probably c/f OOP, like if I got this one for free in the BB or something.

I concur.

Time Link to 00:44:31

I know that this episode is mainly about Flop play, but in this JT98ds hand you also talk about Turnplay when he hit a 9 or a K , saying that you would c/c bec. players will barrel their NFD+GS hands and other combos...how do we play a river then? would you c/f to a shove/PSB if you don't have an aggressive dynamic with the other player?

I guess that we would have to c/c the nutstraight on the Turn to be able to balance the range that we get to the river with... and would you advocate c/r vs particular players that seem to barrel too often?


I would appreciate if you could give me an approach on how to handle spots where our range is somehow capped to the 2/3rd nutz and our opponent is smart enough to realize this...

really enjoyed the series and each episode seems to get even more interesting then the previous one!

I know that this episode is mainly about Flop play, but in this JT98ds hand you also talk about Turnplay when he hit a 9 or a K , saying that you would c/c bec. players will barrel their NFD+GS hands and other combos...how do we play a river then? would you c/f to a shove/PSB if you don't have an aggressive dynamic with the other player?

I guess that we would have to c/c the nutstraight on the Turn to be able to balance the range that we get to the river with... and would you advocate c/r vs particular players that seem to barrel too often?


I would appreciate if you could give me an approach on how to handle spots where our range is somehow capped to the 2/3rd nutz and our opponent is smart enough to realize this...

We tried to limit our discussion to flop play in this episode (and the next one) but any discussion of flop play should obviously consider later streets of action because they seriously impact our flop decisions. Especially in a hand like the JT98ds one.

Generally, when we're in a situation where our range is "capped" and we have the top part of it (2nd or 3rd nuts, generally), we have to grit our teeth and call down. It will work out well for us often enough because people fire that last barrel fairly often when we look weak, but there's not much else we can do with our hand but give them the chance to do it. These situations are obviously tougher and more common when out of position.

And yes, I would definitely c/c the nut straight on the turn here for balance sometimes. I'd do that more often on a drier board though (say, 2569r with 87xx) than on a wet one like this. Though if I am to do it on a wet board, I'll do it with hands that have no redraws. If I have redraws I'd prefer to jam it in and hope to freeroll my opponent (though of course I'm happy if he calls with the non-nuts too ).

Great episode - I struggled a little with the first two in the PPP format, but this was bang on the money.

Very well explained with one or two spots specifically which have made me re-think my standard approach to those/similar situations.

... I struggled a little with the first two in the PPP format,

Yeah me too.

Time Link to 01:04:26

I want my shout-out dangit....

Im enjoying the series thus far, do you guys still want us to submit HH's or are you good?

Time Link to 01:01:22

So if we bet out here, get 1 or 2 calls, and then the button raises, are we always going to stick it in? Or are we ever going to flat-call and hope to get a couple more overcalls with our outs being nutty?

So if we bet out here, get 1 or 2 calls, and then the button raises, are we always going to stick it in? Or are we ever going to flat-call and hope to get a couple more overcalls with our outs being nutty?

If we bet and get 1 or 2 calls and there is a raise behind, the raise will commit such a large portion of our stack that everyone will know we have a big hand by calling. We should just go ahead and stick it in. In practice it doesn't make much of a difference.

Honestly I think in a "reverse psychology" sort of way I'd rather jam because it seems like we are less likely to want more people in the pot (when in reality we don't give a crap).

Time Link to 00:43:07

Like you would ever in a million years donk KKxx here Why are you trying to be balanced in a 2-4 game to start with?

Like you would ever in a million years donk KKxx here Why are you trying to be balanced in a 2-4 game to start with?

1) Sure I would, especially against somebody with a low cbet%. Less so in a 3bet pot perhaps, but I think donking flop with superstrong hands is a very viable option in PLO.
2) 2-4 games aren't easy (anymore). And even if they are for you, its good practice to work on balancing your game so that when you move up to the higher stakes where it matters, you are ahead of the curve already.

Really enjoyed this ep. First 2 of the series were good too, but certainly not as fun

Can't wait to maximize my everything! lmao

I love the series so far and I'm watching the videos in order starting from the first one after another. Great stuff, but I had to say something that was nagging on my mind about the JT98ds hand that no one else seemed to mention. My first post on DeucesCracked, trying out the 7 day trial and wanted to post my thoughts.

While I understand the logic for flatting instead of 3-betting pre-flop to keep the fish in on the JT98ds hand, I feel like this is a really bad spot to do that. For one, he might limp-fold and we end up heads up OOP with a high SPR (unlikely he folds after limping, but still a possiblity we have to consider.) Second, even if he does what we want him to and calls, how great really is this for us? Sure he's a big fish, but since we all know how imperative position is to success in PLO, our edge over him is automatically reduced dramatically because he has position on us. Granted, he's a fish so he's not going to use position as well as a good player would to make our decisions tougher, but the advantage is built-in. Factor that with now we're OOP against 2 players if he flats, which you could argue is worse even with the fish included, and this play makes zero sense to me. To me this spot is simple. You have a premium hand, OOP. 3-bet, put more money in, take the initiative, and barrel away post flop since most of the time your hand is going to catch peices that allow barrelling the turn easily and confidently. Or, if the flop comes something like A55 and we hit air, a c-bet takes it down because they assume we have AA and don't want to be drawing dead so it's a win-win. I really feel like this is one of those KISS situations (keep it simple, stupid) and that flatting was really over-thinking the situation. And look at what ended up happening, we were put in a really tough spot post because we flatted. If we simply 3-bet, the SPR is much lower and we hit the flop hard enough to barrel and stack off post. Much easier to deal with. I feel like 3-betting prevents us from getting into a really crappy spot like we did to begin with, which is an overlooked part of poker in general I think. It just seems like we should keep plays like this for when we're in position against fish, especially heads-up to make life easier on ourselves instead of making it more difficult when it never needed to be to begin with.

Thoughts? And thank you so much for this video series!