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Kimber88

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So I had a discussion with a player on another forum. I started watching Vanessa Selbst's 2x6 series and got through the preflop thing. So I commented on this guys hand. what do you think should be done with this hand preflop?

Button Hero ($22.09)
SB laoshu ($23.09)
BB Nyyna ($22.88)
UTG TiltMeUp ($24.52)
UTG+1 NEGITO2 ($5.52)
CO Boktipset ($19.70)

Preflop: Hero is on the Button with K Spade K Club T Club 4 Diamond
TiltMeUp calls 0.20, NEGITO2 calls 0.20, 1 fold, Hero?????

Posted about 4 years ago

Oznerovitch

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Even tho you are in position, I like calling here instead of raising with your not so strong kings.

Posted about 4 years ago

Entity

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I'd limp for sure. I'd raise if my hand was doublesuited with a card that connected with the T, basically an 8/9/J/Q/A.

Rob

Posted about 4 years ago

ORAG

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I don't think limping is a bad play, but I like raising that more from the button.

Say your opponents play the top 1/3 of hands here, 3 ways you have 38% equity plus your position.

If you then limp and SB/BB play 100% of their hands your equity drops to 23%. Plus, you get to play this in position.

Posted about 4 years ago

Entity

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I don't think limping is a bad play, but I like raising that more from the button.

Say your opponents play the top 1/3 of hands here, 3 ways you have 38% equity plus your position.

If you then limp and SB/BB play 100% of their hands your equity drops to 23%. Plus, you get to play this in position.


Limping allows you for a lot more of a chance of getting a decent amount of money in postflop when you overset one of the several remaining players, but raising eliminates a lot of potential hands. You have a small equity edge 3-ways but the hand plays a bit nicer preflop in a smaller pot IMO.

Rob

Posted about 4 years ago

ORAG

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I don't disagree with that, but I think raising allows us to win the pot unimproved much more often. I'd definitely limp with it myself at times, I think it is pretty close either way.

Posted about 4 years ago

n0whereman

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I don't disagree with that, but I think raising allows us to win the pot unimproved much more often.



I'd imagine that at these stakes (and many higher than this), we're very likely to have a big multiway pot that we won't be able to take down on the flop very often. With one limper I can see raising to isolate a high %, but here I just don't see us winning pf or on the flop terribly often. I'm not necessarily saying raising here is bad, but I think this particular line of thinking is off.

Posted about 4 years ago

ORAG

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I'd imagine that at these stakes (and many higher than this), we're very likely to have a big multiway pot that we won't be able to take down on the flop very often. With one limper I can see raising to isolate a high %, but here I just don't see us winning pf or on the flop terribly often. I'm not necessarily saying raising here is bad, but I think this particular line of thinking is off.


I'm coming from a full ring background of late, but I find players folding WAY too often. But, my thinking may be off because I'm playing full ring and they may be much weaker than the 6 max player.

Posted about 4 years ago

Kimber88

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Hey guys.

Thanks for all the replies. It's nice to be a part of a forum where people takes time to do some serious talk about a PLO20 hand Smile

I take it limping would be the better option here, followed by a raise and with folding as the worst option or?

Posted about 4 years ago




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