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Poker Video: Pot-Limit Omaha by whitelime (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:09:39

Why value bet so big on this river? One of the draws came in, but that's just a smaller part of his range. Wouldn't you expect to get looked up by an Aces up type hand if you bet more like $130? I don't think any worse hand other than a set of 2's pays you off here to a bet that big.

WOW very nice. I was about to cancel my subscribe with deucescracked since nothing cool of plo had come in quite some time. Great starting episode lime. Ur really good at explaining ur thought process. One thing that you could improve if possible would be to play 4 tables instead of 2 since youd get in more interesting stuff. A+++++++++

Great ! Looking forward to the next episodes. Really hope to see some HU PLO vids.

One question: in the spot where you c/r 86xx on K75r, turn 2nd heart, river Q heart. What rivercards are the best bluff cards? It looks to me that Qh is not a great rivercard to bluff as your rep such a polarized range (flush<-> air, right?) ?

Thanks a lot !

why do u cbet so big?
30 in 35 on K82rb w/ 88 (min 20) and 36 in 43 w/ JJ on TTJcc (min 22)

Early in the episode (~6:45) you mentioned hands that have small pairs in them are not worth that much. It sounded as if you wanted to elaborate on that point, but then you were whisked away to address the table action. I've certainly learned a few hard lessons about small pairs in PLO, but was hoping you might share or finish your thought raised in the video. Thanks!

Time Link to 00:03:06

if we were 100bb deep would we be bet calling this off here? What if the 8 was a 2, would you be more inclined to be raise 100 bb deep? If we had the T instead of 6 would you be more likely to bet/3bet all in on this flop 200bb deep?

Maybe the 200 bb deep is throwing me off a bit but I thought, generally OOP we wanted to shove money in as fast as we can with big draws to 1) avoid making a bad fold on the turn and 2) our equity drops in half on the turn when we miss.

The way you played this hand was about the same way I play 9t here w/o redraws.

Early in the episode (~6:45) you mentioned hands that have small pairs in them are not worth that much. It sounded as if you wanted to elaborate on that point, but then you were whisked away to address the table action. I've certainly learned a few hard lessons about small pairs in PLO, but was hoping you might share or finish your thought raised in the video. Thanks!

2x6 with vanessa selbst explains this at length but in short we don't flop sets often enough, the times we do it is pretty easy for us to be overset when we get a ton of action, and really having an extra card towards something like a wrap is way more valuable than having a paired card which is dead weight. Even if the unconnected card provides only a gutterball that is still 4 outs vs. 2.

why do u cbet so big?
30 in 35 on K82rb w/ 88 (min 20) and 36 in 43 w/ JJ on TTJcc (min 22)

Gotta build the pot when you're 200 bbs deep to set up bigger river bets.

Why value bet so big on this river? One of the draws came in, but that's just a smaller part of his range. Wouldn't you expect to get looked up by an Aces up type hand if you bet more like $130? I don't think any worse hand other than a set of 2's pays you off here to a bet that big.

I don't think most players are folding two pair when the flush misses.

Great ! Looking forward to the next episodes. Really hope to see some HU PLO vids.

One question: in the spot where you c/r 86xx on K75r, turn 2nd heart, river Q heart. What rivercards are the best bluff cards? It looks to me that Qh is not a great rivercard to bluff as your rep such a polarized range (flush<-> air, right?) ?

Thanks a lot !

That's not really a polarized range in PLO and we do have the bottom of our range with this hand. Surely some of the other bluff c/r hands will have hearts in them as will some made hands. Seems like a pretty mandatory bluff for GTO purposes.

if we were 100bb deep would we be bet calling this off here? What if the 8 was a 2, would you be more inclined to be raise 100 bb deep? If we had the T instead of 6 would you be more likely to bet/3bet all in on this flop 200bb deep?

Maybe the 200 bb deep is throwing me off a bit but I thought, generally OOP we wanted to shove money in as fast as we can with big draws to 1) avoid making a bad fold on the turn and 2) our equity drops in half on the turn when we miss.

The way you played this hand was about the same way I play 9t here w/o redraws.

Yes to both of your new scenarios. In each one, your allin equity against a normal flop stackoff range for your opponents goes up a ton.

Also remember that you get away cheaply when you miss and that you can decide what cards more money goes in on. There are advantages to playing draws passively as well.

2x6 with vanessa selbst explains this at length but in short we don't flop sets often enough, the times we do it is pretty easy for us to be overset when we get a ton of action, and really having an extra card towards something like a wrap is way more valuable than having a paired card which is dead weight. Even if the unconnected card provides only a gutterball that is still 4 outs vs. 2.

This is pretty much it.

That's not really a polarized range in PLO and we do have the bottom of our range with this hand. Surely some of the other bluff c/r hands will have hearts in them as will some made hands. Seems like a pretty mandatory bluff for GTO purposes.

Right, makes sense. So which rivercards are you bluffing ? Which cards are pretty bad to bluff(2o,3o,Qo,Jo,Ao?) on and which are the worst to bluff on (K,7,5 ?) ?

Thanks in advance !

I don't think most players are folding two pair when the flush misses.

So do you usually fire a 2nd barrel if you have 456x or something like KKxx with s? Do you ever bet that big on the river with a busted FD, or do you not care that much about balancing your river bet sizes at this limit? To the 2nd question, I think the answer would be "no", since if you had a busted FD, he would be less likely to too, which would weight his hand more towards sets/2pair/straights that would call.

sick vid Emil! really makes me want to learn PLO