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SB: $46.05
Hero (BB): $102.90
UTG: $50.00
MP: $82.60
CO: $50.00
BTN: $129.40

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 9 J J K
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($2.25) J 3 7 (4 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks, BTN bets $2, Hero raises to $8, MP folds, CO folds, BTN calls $6

Turn: ($18.25) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, BTN raises to $35.50,

Hero?
For 100BB its autojam, for 200BB? Is it possible to get away?
Villain is aggresive but not clueless, i figured he would not jam 73 or J3 there not to mention that theres not too many J3 in his range but who knows.

I don't understand why you'd ever want to fold there even for 200bb. I'd either just jam or call turn and lead river. Either way there's no folding here especially if he's aggressive. If he has quads, good for him..

because hes probably jaming 77 on flop. Question is what does he jam on turn?
It is obvious i dont want to fold, however it is interesting if its apropriate to consider folding or not.
I ran in to quads with top full that day already, so maybe i saw monsters where's its no brainer jam.

73 is a possibility in a limped pot.. or even A3 or 77 looking for a good turn or trying to trap you. It was a pretty dry flop. He could also be bluffing if he's aggro and a thinking player.

No way in hell I ever do anything but try to get all in here 200 BB deep. His range is much bigger than you give him credit for.

There are few spots in PLo where you can honestly say you have been coolered. Top full house versus quads is one of the few spots imo. So there shouldn't be a discussion about folding this hand at all.

If you want further support, put it this way; You have 3bet pf which indicates to villain that the vast majority of your range is AAxx and your line looks very like AAxx. I wouldn't be suprised if he has even pure air in this spot.

There are few spots in PLo where you can honestly say you have been coolered. Top full house versus quads is one of the few spots imo. So there shouldn't be a discussion about folding this hand at all.

Well i just got "coolered" with top full for the 3d time in 3k hand session.
Either its not that rare or i'm running not that well.

If you want further support, put it this way; You have 3bet pf which indicates to villain that the vast majority of your range is AAxx and your line looks very like AAxx. I wouldn't be suprised if he has even pure air in this spot.

Not at this level. It took me long time until i learned not to give ppl credit for such kind of creativity at stakes below PL200.
And PF was unraised pot (i'm not sure where this 3bet came from), so my range could be anything including 33. In 3bet pot, yeah, his range would extend to inside wraps and other airish type of hands.

Not at this level. It took me long time until i learned not to give ppl credit for such kind of creativity at stakes below PL200.
And PF was unraised pot (i'm not sure where this 3bet came from), so my range could be anything including 33. In 3bet pot, yeah, his range would extend to inside wraps and other airish type of hands.

Oh sorry about the 3bet pot comment, I accidently read the flop action instead of the pf action. But the discussion should still be the same. Folding is not in consideration for 200bb stack. In regards to the frequency of quads in PLo, it is definately much higher then in NLHE but it is still a cooler.

It's hilarious that after I come in here and say "obvious shove" I also just folded top full just now. Except it was 3 way and the board was 54333.. All I can say is I know the feeling violt.

I just looked in PTO and in 26k hands I've lost to quads with a boat twice (neither was top full).

ok so general consesus is we dont consider folding top fulls to any action unless we are 300BB+ deep or theres 3 of the kind on board.
Tought so, just wanted to make sure i dont need to outhink myself in situations like those.

ok so general consesus is we dont consider folding top fulls to any action unless we are 300BB+ deep or theres 3 of the kind on board.
Tought so, just wanted to make sure i dont need to outhink myself in situations like those.

When you're running bad it starts to mess up your thinking. Just battle through it and don't worry about monsters under your bed.

If you want further support, put it this way; You have 3bet pf which indicates to villain that the vast majority of your range is AAxx and your line looks very like AAxx. I wouldn't be suprised if he has even pure air in this spot.

Good point, except it was a limped pot preflop and we checked our BB. FWIW if it was a 3bet pot preflop I'd stack off top boat here much deeper than 200x.

if it's quads it's a cooler, but air makes up a lot of the range here bc you're bet one or the other. is really weak or really strong, so villain could be bluff raising you as he perceives your bet to indicate weakness.