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Poker Stars $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1852336
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BB: $22.67 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 3, 3B: 8, AF: 0.8, Hands: 59
UTG: $41.12 - VPIP: 39, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 1.2, Hands: 227
MP: $23.00 - VPIP: 91, PFR: 32, 3B: 21, AF: 1.1, Hands: 47
Hero (CO): $38.88 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3.4, Hands: 1281973
BTN: $32.86 - VPIP: 35, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 1.7, Hands: 31
SB: $17.06 - VPIP: 91, PFR: 55, 3B: 0, AF: 4.5, Hands: 11

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with K 4 A 7
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1.50) 5 4 2 (6 players)
SB bets $1.00, BB calls $1, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero calls $1, BTN folds

Turn: ($4.50) J (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4.00, SB calls $4, BB folds

River: ($12.50) K (2 players)
SB bets $5.25, Hero calls $5.25


Flop is an easy call IP vs 2 fish imo. On the turn I thought I could bet with the intention of betting a lot of rivers because I see them x/c the turn with weak hands because they would bet the turn them selves with strong hands. Or is is better to take the free card vs 2 fish?

As played on the river, what would you do? I see villain bet here missed draws as least as often as a weird made hand, agree?

I think the limp is fine. If it would be 1 limped in front I definitely raise to isolate. If the button doesn't cold call a ton I'd still raise probably.

We are getting a nice price, good implied odds and have pretty good position on the action so I like the call.

On the turn. I would bet this for sure if there would be 1 player left. Against 2 players I am not that convinced that we will win the pot often enough to get direct EV from fold equity.

The river is sticky. Given that we have the NFD I would fold. I don't see which busted draws he can have that he would play this way? It looks like a non nut strong hand that didn't want to face a shove on the turn and waits for a save river to value bet.

Raise flop.

Best to rep, A3 63 here. Noone is going to rebluff you, and you can get lots of people in the pot to fold their equities.

I wanna know what people think about this...
And whether it would be raise/fold or raise/call

I think people fold flop like 70%+ of their range to a flop raise in this spot.

I like the raise flop idea, not sure what people at these stakes 3bet jam though, are their 3bet jams only nutted?

Raise flop.

Best to rep, A3 63 here. Noone is going to rebluff you, and you can get lots of people in the pot to fold their equities.

I wanna know what people think about this...
And whether it would be raise/fold or raise/call

I think people fold flop like 70%+ of their range to a flop raise in this spot.

I'd probably fold anything to a flop raise that I'm not getting it in with.

I like the raise flop idea, not sure what people at these stakes 3bet jam though, are their 3bet jams only nutted?

Not JUST the nuts, but the weakest hand you'll run into in the spot if they 3-bet jam is like 553x or 67 w/ clubs. You certainly won't see anything approaching light here and the vast majority of most villain's ranges will be 63xx.

Raise flop.

Best to rep, A3 63 here. Noone is going to rebluff you, and you can get lots of people in the pot to fold their equities.

Raising A3 here is awfull IMO, you'll get shown the nuts so often in a MW pot. Even with 63 I would like to see a clean turn.

Raising A3 here is awfull IMO, you'll get shown the nuts so often in a MW pot. Even with 63 I would like to see a clean turn.

I think raising isnt a good idea either. I wanted to use my position and keep the pot multiway with my nfd.
Even if both villains would x the flop I would x behind because I dont want to get x/r.

Say the fd comes in, do you think anything is going to pay you off?

Say the fd comes in, do you think anything is going to pay you off?

I think sets will x/c the turn and the SB will x/c at least the turn with a weaker flush.

Even if both villains would x the flop I would x behind because I dont want to get x/r.

This is bad logic given the hand we have.

This is bad logic given the hand we have.

I wanted to point out that im not thrilled about getting it in, or do you think that I should?

By raising the flop we are going to win a very small pot when our bluff works while we are setting ourself up to get our stack in with 35% equity if we fail. Bare nut flush draws are not that awesome In PLO. This is actually a perfect spot to flat (multiway, high SPR, good position). We will still have good implied odds when we hit on the turn. No one is going to be convinced that you always have the nuts when its checked to you on the turn and you bet.

So then just raise fold if you think we are going to get it in badly.

I think this spot is great for getting people to fold their equity tho. As you said. People arent going to 3bet bluff you and there are spots where people are going to call your raise.

I think this spot is great for getting people to fold their equity tho. As you said. People arent going to 3bet bluff you and there are spots where people are going to call your raise.

I dont think we are going to win the pot that often directly on the flop with a raise.

And what I meant is that when we are getting it in vs a shove and you call because you get correct odds you still end up getting stacks in the middle with 35% equity. Id rather be the one who gets his stack in with 65%.

So then just raise fold if you think we are going to get it in badly

Why would you raise here if you can not call a reraise AI? Now we are the ones who are folding a good amount of equity