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Both villans were unknown, but seemed to be shaping up to be loose over only like 20 hands, so certainly no solid reads. They had seen me raising and involved in 3/5 of the last hands.

When I flatted the flop I did it with the intention of pretty much never folding-but ideally I wanted a raise.

My thinking was that I would have way underrepresented my hand, that there were enough draws and top pair type hands that I was doing well VS and a couple 2 pair hands I would have decent equity against.

Am I better off just raising the flop? ( which I guess is my default)




Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

MP2: $211.75
CO: $122.00
BTN: $163.00
SB: $146.00
BB: $50.00
Hero (UTG): $235.65
UTG+1: $60.00
UTG+2: $207.50
MP1: $140.60


Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $9, 5 folds, BTN calls $9, SB calls $8, 1 fold

Flop: ($29.00) Q 7 9 (3 players)
SB bets $31, Hero calls $31, BTN raises to $122, SB calls $91, Hero raises to $213, BTN calls $32 all in, SB calls $15 all in


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Hmmm...to me this equals op vs trips vs flush/straight draw.

It's difficult to get away from these situations, it's either fold on the flop or jam. I could see the button flat any pair, AQ or AA. I could see the SB coming in with any pair or suited connector.

I think the SB is either very good and hoping someone will shove after he flats on the flop, or is very bad and hasn't realised it's shove or fold here.

As a final point, typically when we see so much action on a flop like this after PF raising, trips always show up with solid players. Bad players turn up with draws all day.

i raise the flop and go with the hand given the SPR~5 with a big overpair. i don't like slowplaying in a multiway pot when the pot is already large(relative to the stack size)

I would have raised the flop the first time around, but given the action I think its a fold

I just can't see being good here very often to call.

I would have raised the flop the first time around, but given the action I think its a fold

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I would have raised the flop the first time around, but given the action I think its a fold

Yup, the BTN raising the flop and SB calling the flop raise are two clear signs KK is no good.

I'd dump it to the raise and call. I'd probably flat the first time around too, donking into a UTG raise and a caller is pretty strong and I'd want to see a blank turn before playing a big pot (and I may not even want to play a big pot then).