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Villian plays 71 / 40 / 1,55 over 75 Hands

His went to showdown is 28
and win at showdown is 23

How would you play in this situation. Villian is a passive Fish, but he shove on the turn!!

No Limit Hold'em $0,10/$0,20
Ongame Network
8 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com - Mac OS X hand history analysis and tracking

Stacks:
UTG - UTG ($14,10)
UTG+1 - Hero ($23,03)
MP - MP ($24,96)
MP2 - MP2 ($19,90)
CO - CO ($28,23)
BTN - BTN ($19,70)
SB - SB ($22,84)
BB - BB ($19,70)

Preflop: ($0,30, 8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Qd Qs
UTG raises to $0,40, Hero raises to $1,50, 2 folds, CO calls $1,50, 3 folds, UTG calls $1,10

Flop: Jd 8c 6s ($4,80, 3 players - Hero: $21,53, CO: $26,73, UTG: $12,60)
UTG bets $1,00, Hero raises to $3,00, 1 fold, UTG calls $2,00

Turn: 5s ($10,80, 2 players - Hero: $18,53, UTG: $9,60)
UTG bets $9,60 (all-in), Hero????????????????????????????


Thanks in advance for your help!!

you should 3bet bigger preflop.
we want to get value vs this super bad player.

same thing on the flop.
there are a lot of turns that are not great and tons of worse hands you get action from.
I'd raise at least to 5,50$.

turn is a pretty easy call against that player type imo.
looks like he is more aggressive bad than passive bad (given his preflop stats)

In 10.000 hands now, i have to say that i loose a lot of money by giving fishes
any range..
I think i have to fold in such situations- if a fish have a low af
and start to bet and raise strong..

You think i am right??

you probably are just bad in giving fish ranges
they also have ranges, like any other player, there are just totally different than normal ranges.
watch grindcores vids for example, he does a pretty good job in reading fishs ranges.

and he doesn't rais in this spot, he just bet/calls which is totally fine for us with such a strong hand in a 3bet pot.

he can have so many worse hands he does that for value with (Jx, TT, 99) plus there is a chance that he is just spewing around totally (given his preflop stats).
no way I'm folding here ever

Ok many thanks
Can you recommend videos for Full Ring games NL20 - NL 50??

did you watch "the coaching tree" already?

No.. Dont know what the Coaching tree is
I want to sign up again for 6 month to get access,
and need some recommendations

then you should watch that first
and basically all the baluga whale stuff.
will give you a really good foundation on poker

tbh I wish I watched my first videos in this order:
1. entire Haj School
2. entire Mathematics of NLHE
3. Running The Streets E1 and 2
4. all the Baluga Stuff
5. all Grindcore stuff

I think that Poemmel gave good advices here, again!
I agree that turn is a call.
Also, the bigger you bet preflop and OTF, the easier your decision become OTT.

I don't think we can really fold here. Vilain is seeing the flop with almost a 70% range and goes to SD 28% of the time. It means he is going to SD pretty often with a weak range and probably value betting a lot of Jx that we have beat and even random bluffs.

Also, we have to be cautious at interpreting aggression overall. When somebody have 70% vpip, is average flop range is so weak that he can hardly continue with a lot of hands. For example, if you have a 2.0 agg factor or even less, but have 70% vpip, just think about what is the average hand that vilain will bet or raise with..... this will still be pretty weak.

Do the exact opposite exercice with a guy playing 8/5. Because his preflop range is so strong, his aggression frequency postflop should be much higher than average, because he will almost always value betting.