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whysoez

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Villain is playing 16/13/2.0 vpip/prfr/af

EP open 7% (91)

3bet% = 6.3 over 322 hands
4bet% = 40% (5)
4bet Range 5% (5)

He 4b QQ once according to my HEM

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1863006
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Hero (UTG+1): $124.86
UTG+2: $56.00
MP1: $107.46
MP2: $104.50
CO: $114.16
BTN: $40.00
SB: $153.01
BB: $143.55
UTG: $101.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG+1 with J Club J Spade
UTG raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, 7 folds, UTG raises to $23, Hero ?

What do we do vs villains 4bet? Fold or Jam
I guess vs this particular opponant(Nit) it's a fold.
Is this only a jam vs player who you know who can 4b light? And with who you've been in 3b and 4b wars with?
What kind of information do we need before this can be a profitable Jam?
(I've read of a strategy against light 3bettors that could be profitable to just 4b Jam 88+ Pocket pairs, if you don't want to get run over, say like co vs bttn spots a lot).

Also in the HUD stats there is a stat 4b Range, for this particular player it's 5%, Now could I pokerstove a preflop range of 5% for villain and face that against my JJ, if we are a slight favorite then would it become profitable to Jam here

I've stoved a top 5% range for villain vs JJ:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.453% 49.39% 01.07% 289205160 6254112.00 { 99+, AJs+, KQs, AKo }
Hand 1: 49.547% 48.48% 01.07% 283894584 6254112.00 { JJ }

Could someone elaborate a little bit deeper on this subject.

Posted 9 months ago

Poemmel

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UTG vs UTG+1 you shouldn't go into 3bet/4bet wars.
you should flat JJ here 100% of the time (against this villain), you are just isolating yourself against a range that crushes you hard (this is also true for 99,9% of fullring regs on 100NL).
it's absolutely ridiculous to say that a reg will get it in with KQ, AJ, AQ, 99 or TT in this spot. I don't even 4bet/call AK and QQ against most players in these positions.

if it's an aggro dynamic in late position it might be +EV to 4bet shove JJ.

this hand shows a really huge leak in your game. you definitely should put some work into early position play.

Posted 9 months ago

whysoez

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UTG vs UTG+1 you shouldn't go into 3bet/4bet wars.
you should flat JJ here 100% of the time (against this villain), you are just isolating yourself against a range that crushes you hard (this is also true for 99,9% of fullring regs on 100NL).
it's absolutely ridiculous to say that a reg will get it in with KQ, AJ, AQ, 99 or TT in this spot. I don't even 4bet/call AK and QQ against most players in these positions.

if it's an aggro dynamic in late position it might be +EV to 4bet shove JJ.

this hand shows a really huge leak in your game. you definitely should put some work into early position play.



Do you also prefer a flat here preflop when there are squeeze happy players left to act?
I'm more inclined to 3b it because I don't want to get squeezed with JJ.

What do you mean by I don't even 4bet/call AK and QQ against most players in these positions.
Do you mean if when you had AK or QQ in this spot and you 3b preflop your just folding vs his 4b?

Posted 9 months ago

Poemmel

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I would just not 3bet AK and QQ most of the time also.
And I'm not too much worried about a squeeze.
The positions protect us from getting squeezed all too wide.

Posted 9 months ago

rrumsey

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And I'm not too much worried about a squeeze.
The positions protect us from getting squeezed all too wide.


which is also a reason to assume that his 4 bet % even if it is over a large sample 5% its likely much tighter here

Posted 9 months ago




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