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Zoom Full Ring: Episode Six

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Zoom Full Ring: Episode Six by slowlane123

slowlane123 reviews a 4-tabling session from a student at $100NL.

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Slowlane123 is back grinding at the tables and gives DeucesCracked members a look into the zoom tables of full ring.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 52 minutes long
  • Posted 10 months ago

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Buby2132

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Time Link to 00:16:57

Why do players at these stakes spazz out so much when someone 3bets an iso raise?
Q8s is just massive FPS spew to shove in this spot.

Inavacuum spoke about this in depth in his latest video.

Surprised you didnt mention anything about this after clapping him for flopping mid-set on table 1.

*If you went back to this hand later, apologies for missing it, i have switched the video off at this point.

Posted 10 months ago

SW_Kaizer

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^^^ haha yh i it was missed, pretty sure that for zoom (even replay vids) 3 tables is enough for anyone except Isildur

Posted 10 months ago

SW_Kaizer

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@25.45 Surely it better to have <PSB left here OTR, so betting 22-24 OTT sets up stacks way nicer, do you ever think there's merit to leaving >PSB behind to overshuv for bluffing reasons / to induce hero calls??

Posted 10 months ago

DjuNKeLL

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Time Link to 00:16:38

The 'spewy' play is on table 2, you probably were distracted about the hands going on at table 1 and 3. Any thoughts on this spot?

Posted 10 months ago

Buby2132

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The 'spewy' play is on table 2, you probably were distracted about the hands going on at table 1 and 3. Any thoughts on this spot?



If you are attempting to defend your play...you have no ground to stand on. Shoving here is terrible and therefore spewy. Understand it is and you will improve.

Dont worry, i kept my eye on every table. I never said it happened at any other table, i was merely suggesting slowlane was occupied with the set on table 1. Missing a vital hand going on elsewhere, as you said, on table 2.

Why did you shove?

Posted 10 months ago

MaskedManQc

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Time Link to 00:39:27

On table 3, what is the logic or tought process behind that raise on a dry board?

Posted 10 months ago

slowlane123

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@25.45 Surely it better to have <PSB left here OTR, so betting 22-24 OTT sets up stacks way nicer, do you ever think there's merit to leaving >PSB behind to overshuv for bluffing reasons / to induce hero calls??



'Setting up stacks' as many people refer to it is a flawed logic trap that people fall into. I even find myself subconsciously saying it sometimes when I play or in videos. He should just bet the maximum he think will get called in this exact situation and that's what he did.

Just make the most +EV play/bet size and forget about getting a stack in.

Posted 10 months ago

slowlane123

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The 'spewy' play is on table 2, you probably were distracted about the hands going on at table 1 and 3. Any thoughts on this spot?



I was indeed distracted by the action :-)

Confirmed spew. 11/9 is never making some crazy play and if he is, so what? He might do so every 50 opportunities or something but for the most part he is just going to have a slightly wider value range (and almost no bluffing range).

Though this play is clearly -EV you can very likely claw back some of this equity in the future by taking note and being aware that he very likely just have a wide value range in this spot in the future.

Posted 10 months ago

slowlane123

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On table 3, what is the logic or tought process behind that raise on a dry board?



Small donk is almost always weak. He can bet bottom or mid pair (or pocket pair) and fold a lot. I think villains range here is heaps of ^ and not a lot of Kx when he does this.

Posted 10 months ago

kanzlooz

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Time Link to 00:30:56

Table 4, is he calling with pocket 6's only to setmine? If so, isn't folding a better option against a tight player who is opening UTG? Are you folding 100% of the time when you do not hit a 6 on the flop?

Posted 10 months ago

SW_Kaizer

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'Setting up stacks' as many people refer to it is a flawed logic trap that people fall into. I even find myself subconsciously saying it sometimes when I play or in videos. He should just bet the maximum he think will get called in this exact situation and that's what he did.

Just make the most +EV play/bet size and forget about getting a stack in.



ok thats interesting, i often find myself trying to bet too big in spots where the pots on the smaller size OTF to try and manufacture 3 streets that allow me me shove riv with less than PSB, as you said, you end up seeing a bunch of folds in those spots which is hugely -EV. will bare that in mind.

do you have an opinion on why you think FR zoom doesn't run over 100NL? do you expect that to change anytime soon? or even when rush returns on FTP (where 1/2 and 2/4 used to run pretty often it seemed) ?

Posted 10 months ago

shuttle

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do you have an opinion on why you think FR zoom doesn't run over 100NL? do you expect that to change anytime soon? or even when rush returns on FTP (where 1/2 and 2/4 used to run pretty often it seemed) ?


I think it's mostly because there's more regs that keep the 6max games going. If more regs started 200nl fr zoom it would probably run more often.

Posted 10 months ago

MaskedManQc

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I think it's mostly because there's more regs that keep the 6max games going. If more regs started 200nl fr zoom it would probably run more often.



Few regs tried very hard to start 200NL FR Zoom in the beginning (there is a Zoom thread on 2+2), they created a group of people that were interested, but seems like there is no interest. Most 200NL FR Regs seem to prefer normal table over Zoom...

Posted 10 months ago

DjuNKeLL

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I was indeed distracted by the action :-)

Confirmed spew. 11/9 is never making some crazy play and if he is, so what? He might do so every 50 opportunities or something but for the most part he is just going to have a slightly wider value range (and almost no bluffing range).

Though this play is clearly -EV you can very likely claw back some of this equity in the future by taking note and being aware that he very likely just have a wide value range in this spot in the future.



Ok thanks. His 4b stat is very high (32% over 3.2k hands), i was 3betting a likely weaker player and we were in late positions which made me levelling myself here.

Posted 10 months ago




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