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is it terrible to try to get value from AA this way? is it better to bet the earlier streets and not try to induce?

8 players - View hand 1855275
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UTG: $24.43
Hero (UTG+1): $9.97
MP1: $9.93
MP2: $6.64
CO: $2.44
BTN: $10.77
SB: $9.33
BB: $10.96

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with A A
UTG raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, MP1 calls $0.30, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.50) Q 3 6 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.00, MP1 calls $1, SB calls $1, BB folds, UTG folds

Turn: ($4.50) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.00, MP1 raises to $8.63, SB folds, Hero calls $5.63

River: ($21.76) K (2 players)

Final Pot: $21.76
Hero shows A A
MP1 shows K Q
MP1 wins $20.68
(Rake: $1.08)

don't bet/call the turn, bet/raise A.I. it - and that's assuming you call pre.

I had a similar hand @ 10NL FR featured on Full Ring Evolution Ep 3. I flatted AA in EP vs EP raiser (it was a mistake as covered extensively in the vid and in the thread). If you're going to do this, you want to be sure someone behind you will re-pop it. It's far less likely for a few reasons:
1. 10NL full ring typically doesn't have aggressors that will just auto-pop squeeze
2. the original raiser is UTG... think of UTG's range and therefore the likelihood of someone wanting to 3bet squeeze him - we call this positional protection.

The argument against raising pre is that it looks obvious that you have a premium when you do it right after him... really, you can only have AK, QQ+ for the most part unless you're just re-popping all the time from all positions and against all positions.

Like my hand in that DC video, if you slowplay it pre, do NOT slow play it postflop. I'm not saying overplay your hand, but on this particular turn, you can rep so many flush draws (and of course you over-rep your hand a little from the value range) - since no one bet the flop, I can't fault you for not raising there LOL

you can do this if there is a really aggressive dynamic, but thats mostly in 6max games, cause in FR games there aren't many players that will go out of line vs UTG.
AA is a hand that we don't want to be heads up with, it's a disaster if we get into a huge mulitway pot.

What do you know about the preflop raiser? Opening range and how he is playing vs 3 bet?

Vs a guy that folds too much to 3 bet, flatting is probably the best adjustement, but in most cases in the micros, you lose a lot of value by flatting AA pre.

What do you know about the preflop raiser? Opening range and how he is playing vs 3 bet?

Vs a guy that folds too much to 3 bet, flatting is probably the best adjustement, but in most cases in the micros, you lose a lot of value by flatting AA pre.

The threat of players overcalling in a FR game given those position is so high, that it's basically never the best adjustement to flat AA here imo.
I don't even think on highstakes there is all too much squeeze action going to happen given the positions.

The threat of players overcalling in a FR game given those position is so high, that it's basically never the best adjustement to flat AA here imo.
I don't even think on highstakes there is all too much squeeze action going to happen given the positions.

Very true and as you already mentionned, multi way postflop action is terrible for our hand.

Still, flatting is really dependant on few factors / table dynamic.

I'm 3betting every time; you'd think if someone is going to PFR UTG that they would be able to stand up to a 3bet the majority of the time.

If the table was tight andI had a decent sample size on villain saying he folded to 3bets a very high %age of the time I may flat, but it opens you up to more problems than it's worth as a regular strat.

I think maybe a min 3bet is good, because multiway AA can be dangerous if anyone hits their 2 pair or better

You were very lucky to get it in good in 5way pot facing turn shove.

don't bet/call the turn, bet/raise A.I. it - and that's assuming you call pre.

MP raised A.I. so there was no more raising possible