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Zoom Full Ring: Episode Five

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Zoom Full Ring: Episode Five by slowlane123

slowlane123 reviews a 2-tabling video from his student.

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Slowlane123 is back grinding at the tables and gives DeucesCracked members a look into the zoom tables of full ring.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 45 minutes long
  • Posted 10 months ago

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MaskedManQc

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Time Link to 00:08:00

Just started to listen to the first few minutes of the vid this morning...
I folded here with 77, because the player on the BTN had 25% 3 bet (over a small sample tough), but the player on the BB is 3 betting a ton as well.

Posted 9 months ago

MaskedManQc

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Time Link to 00:10:45

Yes, I was looking for fold to 4 bet oop, but also at his 3 bet vs steal SB vs CO so far. Vilain had a very low 3 bet % in this spot, in that case I 4 bet bluff much less.

Posted 9 months ago

MaskedManQc

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Time Link to 00:16:00

On table 2, I checked exactly because he had a very high agg frequency. Only had 112 hands on him, but he had 40 agg factor (really out of line) and his river aggression was above 40% if I remember.

Vs a more passive player, I think I can value bet around half pot and hope to get paid.

Posted 9 months ago

MaskedManQc

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Time Link to 00:24:24

Good comment on this hand.
I usually iso with probably 88+ in this spot, 77 sometimes, almost never with small PP, but this is probably something I should do more.

Postflop. this hand went all wrong, probably due to FPS. I wanted to check call flop with the possibility of turning my hand into a bluff on later street. While in play I also considered donking here and after review, I think that vs 2 passive players, this is probably the best option, as you mentionned.

The way I played this hand would be a perfect example of "how to put in in akward spots"

Posted 9 months ago

MaskedManQc

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Time Link to 00:26:40

Good that you mentionned that its not a standard open from MP. This was an open for entertainement value! Smile

Seriously, as a standard, I only open small suited A when there are weak players in the blinds and there are not too much aggro 3 bettors

Posted 9 months ago

MaskedManQc

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Time Link to 00:26:40

Thank you Slowlane123. Very good video review with a lot of very good, in depth comments.

Its good to make this kind of review from time to time. I realize there are few things to fine tune here and there. Here are my general comments on what you noticed.

As you mentionned, I openend my game much more in late position (not only, but especially) and it now puts me in new spots. I think in the past I was folding too much to blind resteal and I am starting to call much wider. I am probably going a little too far in few spots recently tough. The A7s hand vs a shortstacker is a good example where I should be 4 betting of folding, as we will hardly be able to play well with such a small SPR.

I think that I am doing well overall thin value betting OTR, by betting small. In this vid, there are a couple of spot that are close where i did not bet because board was super coordinated. There are probably still few spots where I can still extract more thin value, as you underlined.

I know we discussed my 3 bet size vs shortstack in the past and I really tried different bet sizes. My standard is 3x, but I should probably make it smaller. The thing is, each time I am trying to make it something like 2.5x, I feel I am facing a shove vs them. In theory, they should have greater FE, as I will be getting worse pot odds to call their shove. Also, I don't know if its because they noticed I was usually making it 3x and now I am inducing or its only because I have a short sample size on doing that.

I also agree on my cbet sizing, that could be smaller in spots where my range is "air heavy" and the board is super dry. Altough, when I cbet small, I feel I sometimes induce a lot of things and this is probably why I sometimes go back to my old habits. Maybe there are few adjustements I should make when cbetting that small tough.

Posted 9 months ago

s0ulmasterlol

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You said that you may consider donking on this flop, but what if he raises your donkbet? are you ready to get it in versus this player on this board?

Posted 9 months ago

SW_Kaizer

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i play heads up as my main game, so was really interested in the bet sizing discussion. in the vid your saying that against bad players your not overly concerned with balancing b/c they are not goin to adjust or notice (say the CB with AQ on KXX board where hero CB 2.50 into 3.50 i think, and you said that you would go as small as 1.50 when they're likely check folding) ~ would you bet a value hand the same size here on this dry of a texture versus a reg who we have a decent sample on?
when i play heads up i CB and barrel turns 80%+ of the pot, b/c i'm in position and want to use my stack to my advantage. now i understand ranges are tighter in fullring, but when were in late position versus blinds it is in essence playing heads up assuming a single opponent calls your steal and defends, so would it be a leak to bet and barrel bigger in these spots? i always was of the impression that barreling big against weak players made them fold a ton more hands than they should be

Posted 9 months ago

MaskedManQc

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i always was of the impression that barreling big against weak players made them fold a ton more hands that they should be



Seems like this is probably the key in your question. Don't you think that the best way to exploit somebody that calls too much is by trying to make him pay as much as possible for his mistakes?

Posted 9 months ago

SW_Kaizer

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Seems like this is probably the key in your question. Don't you think that the best way to exploit somebody that calls too much is by trying to make him pay as much as possible for his mistakes?



if someone calls flop and turn and folds river then barreling flop and turn large is much better for obv reasons, i find that many of the nit regs are just snap folding to large double barrels without really thinking about it, which is great when i have air, but i agree its a leak if for example you make them fold 99 on KXX by barreling turn too big (although versus a decent aggressive player who barrels a gd amount 99 should a pretty mandatory chkcall twice heads up)

Posted 9 months ago

SW_Kaizer

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at slowlane, can you provide a list of stats then feel are essential to play FR well please (maybe you have an old vid about that or something) ~ thanks

Posted 9 months ago

MaskedManQc

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i find that many of the nit regs are just snap folding to large double barrels without really thinking about it, which is great when i have air, but i agree its a leak if for example you make them fold 99 on KXX by barreling turn too big (although versus a decent aggressive player who barrels a gd amount 99 should a pretty mandatory chkcall twice heads up)



So, think about how you will construct your whole range in each of the situations and what bet size you should choose given the range you built.

Posted 9 months ago

slowlane123

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You said that you may consider donking on this flop, but what if he raises your donkbet? are you ready to get it in versus this player on this board?



I think he raises fairly rarely but when he does I just take into account the size, timing and any history to make the decision (as well as any relevant stats). I think the spot is close vs this player and even in a vacuum and I would use the aforementioned to help make my decision one way or the other.

Posted 9 months ago

slowlane123

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i play heads up as my main game, so was really interested in the bet sizing discussion. in the vid your saying that against bad players your not overly concerned with balancing b/c they are not goin to adjust or notice (say the CB with AQ on KXX board where hero CB 2.50 into 3.50 i think, and you said that you would go as small as 1.50 when they're likely check folding) ~ would you bet a value hand the same size here on this dry of a texture versus a reg who we have a decent sample on?
when i play heads up i CB and barrel turns 80%+ of the pot, b/c i'm in position and want to use my stack to my advantage. now i understand ranges are tighter in fullring, but when were in late position versus blinds it is in essence playing heads up assuming a single opponent calls your steal and defends, so would it be a leak to bet and barrel bigger in these spots? i always was of the impression that barreling big against weak players made them fold a ton more hands than they should be



The problem with barreling big on dry Kxx boards is that you rep a very narrow range as when you bet this size your value range is probably KQ+ at FR (betting this size with any weaker is likely to only get calls from better). Kxx boards are great to barrel which means that we will continue betting them with a huge number of bluffs and not many value hands. When our range is heavily weighted towards bluffs we want to keep our bet sizing smaller as it makes our bluffs cheaper and allows us to get calls when we have value hands.

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