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***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Cake Poker)
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, July 21, 02:17:37 ET 2012
Table Chelsea (9Max) 14352 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $52.65 USD ) - VPIP: 26, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 2.3, Hands: 106
Seat 2: Player2 ( $100.05 USD ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 3.0, Hands: 592
Seat 3: Hero ( $264.45 USD ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 8969
Seat 4: Player4 ( $316.34 USD ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 1.4, Hands: 334
Seat 5: Player5 ( $89.86 USD ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 2.8, Hands: 119
Seat 7: Player7 ( $107.75 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 3.0, Hands: 953
Seat 8: Player8 ( $100.00 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 2.4, Hands: 364
Seat 9: Player9 ( $28.50 USD ) - VPIP: 8, PFR: 7, 3B: 2, AF: 1.0, Hands: 183
Seat 10: Player10 ( $131.80 USD ) - VPIP: 26, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 2.3, Hands: 106
Hero posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Player4 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kc Ac ]
Player5 folds
Player7 raises [$3.00 USD]
Player8 raises [$9.00 USD]
Player9 folds
Player10 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Hero calls [$8.50 USD]
Player4 folds
Player7 calls [$6.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, Tc, Ts ]
Hero checks
Player7 checks
Player8 bets [$14.75 USD]
Hero calls [$14.75 USD]
Player7 folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
Hero checks
Player8 bets [$21.50 USD]
Hero folds
Player8 wins $21.50 USD
Player8 wins $54.65 USD from main pot

At any point in the hand am I lost what to do. Looking for some help what to do

Cake Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1832046
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CO: $52.65 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 2.3, Hands: 106
BTN: $100.05 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 3.0, Hands: 592
Hero (SB): $264.45 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 8969
BB: $316.34 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 1.4, Hands: 334
UTG: $89.86 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 2.8, Hands: 119
UTG+1: $107.75 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 3.0, Hands: 953
UTG+2: $100.00 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, AF: 2.4, Hands: 364
MP1: $28.50 - VPIP: 8, PFR: 7, 3B: 2, AF: 1.0, Hands: 183
MP2: $131.80 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 2.3, Hands: 106

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with K A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $3, UTG+2 raises to $9, 4 folds, Hero calls $8.50, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $6

Flop: ($28.00) J T T (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets $14.75, Hero calls $14.75, UTG+1 folds

Turn: ($57.50) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $21.50, Hero folds

Final Pot: $57.50
UTG+2 wins $54.65
(Rake: $2.85)

I put your hand in the converter. Makes it a lot easier to read.

What are your reads on both players? A 3b of 10% seems really high for FR, but is he also 3betting a lot vs. EP opens? I would 4bet or fold here.

Would be nice to know, as zachd2323 already asked, if he has such a high 3b vs UTG open.
He could 3bet a lot in late positions but 3bet extremly tight vs EP. Especially against a tight
open raiser.

Fold to 3bet from UTG+1 would be interessting too. If he folds 90% against a 3bet, UTG+2s
3bet range could be much wider there and a I would like a 4bet a bit more. Without that
read a fold looks okay to me.

@zachd2323

Which converter did you use for this hand? I always have trouble with the DC converter
with my cake handhistories.

@zachd2323

Which converter did you use for this hand? I always have trouble with the DC converter
with my cake handhistories.

I just threw it in the DC converter and it worked fine.

I used current version on HEM

fold to 3bet from initial raiser is 58%

I guess the question is: if 3bettor has 40% or more of his range to not be KK,AA then i think my best decision is to call planning to fold to a 4bet to any opponent.

I cant imagine his range is only KK+

how often does UTG2 3bet UTG opens? just looking at the 10% stat is pretty pointless really as the majority of that 10% will be on the BU or in resteal situations I would guess.

Given positions, unless I had a read that UTG2 was fairly weak post flop and I could float alot of flops repping the big pair I think a fold is good here.

I don't think your going to make money coldcalling a 3bet from UTG+2 vs UTG+1 out of position.
Easy fold pre imo.
And if both players are loose enough, you should 4bet and get it in rather than calling.

I don't think your going to make money coldcalling a 3bet from UTG+2 vs UTG+1 out of position.
Easy fold pre imo.
And if both players are loose enough, you should 4bet and get it in rather than calling.

This!!!!!


Unless UTG+2 3 bet range in this specific spot is really out of line. Be careful and aware that some players have a very high 3 bet %, but most of them are coming from LP and the blinds.

I don't think your going to make money coldcalling a 3bet from UTG+2 vs UTG+1 out of position.
Easy fold pre imo.
And if both players are loose enough, you should 4bet and get it in rather than calling.

I agree with this. Neither player seems to be too loose or fishy from their stats. I'm thinking the UTG+1 is going to have a fairly tight PFR range and UTG+2,stat wise seems to be able to grasp that,thus making his 3b range a little on the tighter side as well.
I feel a 4b/fold is the only other option opposed to folding.If u just call and hit a K or a Q youre going to have to stick around and more so than not,Be dominated.