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kobe24poker

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Villian is 21/11 over 163 hands steal 31% (RFI steal from CO 50% 8 hand sample) Aggression factor 4.8

Bet sizing input please and why? What to do vs turn C/R (muck or jam)

CO: $10.00
BTN: $35.53
SB: $10.05
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $4.81
UTG+1: $7.45
MP: $10.67

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K Spade K Diamond
3 folds, CO raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.55

Flop: ($1.75) 6 Diamond Q Spade 8 Spade (2 players)
Hero bets $1.40, CO calls $1.40

Turn: ($4.55) J Heart (2 players)
Hero bets $2.85, CO raises to $5.70,

Hero? Easy muck or Jam it

Posted 11 months ago

pokergarden

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why 3b so small? I'm calling a 3b in position to that raise size a lot, most of my opening range. he could hav anything here, i think you have to fold

Raise closer to 4x from oop when you 3b

Posted 11 months ago

kobe24poker

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Yeah I thought I played this one pretty bad, I 3B small cause I didn't want to blow him off his hand but I think getting value is more important in hindsight. Good to go for value on turn though? and What size on a bet on the turn?

Posted 11 months ago

kobe24poker

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I also think it's a pretty easy fold on the turn when raised, Jam is getting value from pretty much nothing it beats. I only considered the Jam because of his aggression factor but it's a pretty limited sample size.

Posted 11 months ago

hayes13

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pokergarden

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Don't worry about blowing people off a hand with a 3b. You want to build the pot, and also you need to tighten people's range. You don't want them to be able to see the flop with any 2 when you're playing a big pot oop.

Posted 11 months ago

MaskedManQc

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When oop, you can 3 bet bigger, around 4x, unless your range is bluff heavy and vilain fold a lot (obviously, if you 3bet bluff a lot, you target vilain's that fold a lot...).

By default, 3 bet bigger oop to get max value and also, it leads to easier decisions postflop, because your stack to pot ratio is lower. Then you get better pot odds and its less of mistake to stack off with TPTK or an overpair type of hand. Make it 1.20$ here preflop.

In 3 bet pots, I usually bet a little more than half pot on every street. In short, if you bet half pot on every street in a 3 bet pot, all the money is going in anyway. By doing that, you keep vilain's calling range wider.

In the micros, I tend to say, fold when you face resistance, unless you have a read that vilain is very aggro. We know that this vilain is aggro (4.8 agg factor) and that he steals a lot. Altough, do you know how often he fold to 3 bet? Here, my default play would be to fold. Try to stove what is vilain's preflop calling range here and what possible hands he could have called pre and OTF and raise with OTT. Doing that, you will have a good idea of what to do. The more information you have on him, the more accurate you will be when doing that exercice.

Posted 11 months ago

uselink

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raise bigger preeflop. this is way too small! giving him great impleid odds to set mine or call with SCS etc..

bet 55-60% on each street in 3bet pot.. will set up a good betsize shove on river..

as played fold turn.. he would bluff the flop if he saw your small cbet as weakness

EDIT: if i was to go on with the hand, jamming is really bad.. call turn and call a total blank river.

Posted 11 months ago

MaskedManQc

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I also think it's a pretty easy fold on the turn when raised, Jam is getting value from pretty much nothing it beats. I only considered the Jam because of his aggression factor but it's a pretty limited sample size.



Jamming just making him fold his bluffs and he end up calling mainly with what has you beat.
Calling, if he is bluffing often enough, leave him some room to bluff one more street.

Posted 11 months ago




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