StueysKid
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I don't normally watch FR videos and even rarer for me to watch a micro FR video, BUT I'm currently working my way up through micros at Merge (and their FR tables seem nice lately), so...
A few non-important comments: we have no hands together, and the only player that I recognized or identified in my database from this video was nutpeddler. You must play a different time of day than I do, because when I play, I'm lucky to get 3 non-regs at a single table. This looked like a fish-fest, ha ha.
I thought that was insightful with the AA as the 3better IP. I'm typically not adjusting my bet size down like this, and you made an excellent point - though this will depend some on stack depth, but your argument was solid IMO.
I thought the triple barrel on the monotone board was damned near suicidal. I just don't think you're going to get the fold equity there, but what do I know... dude folded TPGK. Part of this might be image related... I don't think I could get away with it, but then we run totally different styles. For example, I ran the same filter as you: micros, merge, more than 7 players and came up with 29/20 3.6 3b% over 15k sample and a 12bb wr.
Similarly, I'm probably not triple barreling the T9x board with ATo after raising the turn so large, but there's merit to doing it since he can have a weaker T (which he did)
Finally, in the video, you wondered if 2.5x OTB was a mistake. I doubt it, but it really depends on who's in the blinds. I'm normally up against reg types that have similar vpip/pfr sats that you have... so I see less value of full size raises unless the depth justifies it. I'm probably opening the button for less than 3x 90% of the time (that's % of when I open, not my frequency) - and adjust depending on what they do or who's there.
I'll watch the rest of the series. Thanks for doing it.
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goldseraph
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Thanks for checking out the video Stueyskid! I didn't think the triple barrel you mentioned was that suicidal, I was actually not expecting to fold out many top pairs, was aiming more to his weak 1 pair hands. It could be because of image, but I also question how much players at 10nl really adjust to each other.
I can't believe you're playing 30/20 at full ring! That is extremely laggy and I would think it is tough to maneuver playing many really weak hands against so many calling stations and randoms. I personally would start flatting you IP and 3betting you a ton but like I said 10nl players may not be that exploitative so whatever works 
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StueysKid
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I think you're totally correct. People do not adjust, so I just keep going, LOL. Part of the stat is that I'm playing less tables (maybe 4) and part is just people don't adjust. If I play more tables, or people are pounding me, or I'm running bad, I'm tightening up to more 18/15 I think.
FWIW, I don't think I could get away with that much lag at 100NL... but, that's one reason I'll be watching all the way through - to see how the different levels change.
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zachd2323
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I really like the elimination of hand moves analogy. This is something that is very important imo. I feel like I'm getting better at it, but it still happens from time to time. I think it just comes down to mastering the mental game and focusing on every decision (which isn't easy).
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B-rye88
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flavas
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VarianceMonkey
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What's the rationale for the KJs fold on table six? What hands are you calling here? If you're not calling KJs why not 3bet it as a bluff?
Liking the vid so far.
I had the same question. Seems like KJs with position is good enough to flat or 3bet vs a limper and a likely weak range from a reg's CO isolation.
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zachd2323
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goldseraph
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What's the rationale for the KJs fold on table six? What hands are you calling here? If you're not calling KJs why not 3bet it as a bluff?
Liking the vid so far.
Hi do you mean on table 3? A 10/6 raised a limper so I just folded. I don't really 3bet 10/6's light and I don't think cold calling 4.5 bbs there is profitable. If I had the read that the isolator was an aggressive reg I would certainly consider 3betting him.
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goldseraph
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VarianceMonkey
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I noticed you generally make your flop cbets 2/3 pot. Do you think there is any merit in making the flop cbet smaller like 1/2 pot or even less, depending on board texture and villain, to give ourselves a cheaper price?
Really liking the vid, and looking forward to hearing more about your theory and application of bet sizing on all streets in various spots.
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flavas
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Hi do you mean on table 3? A 10/6 raised a limper so I just folded. I don't really 3bet 10/6's light and I don't think cold calling 4.5 bbs there is profitable. If I had the read that the isolator was an aggressive reg I would certainly consider 3betting him.
If he was actually 10/6 that makes sense, but you only have 30 hands on him, much more likely that he has normal TAG stats and just ran a little cold than that he's a 10/6. Standard deviation on a 30 hand binomial sample with p = .14 is going to be something like 7% I think. Plus just the fact that he's raising this hand means he's already actually a 12/9 according to your sample.
If he's actually a ~15/13ish type of reg do you like a call?
do you mean make it $1.50 to $1.80, or make it 1.5-1.8x pot size?
I mean an 1.5 pot overbet. It seems like a super good spot for an overbet: you have the nut blocker, his range is quite weak, and he's the sort of player you don't expect to hand read enough to work out AJo is almost never good here, but who is also going to play emotionally and first-level enough that when he sees you overbet he'll just think you made the nuts and fold.
You could probably get away with 1.3x, but his range is so mediocre and there are so many hands close to each other that I think it's worth paying more to make sure you're scary enough for him to be folding everything Ax and lower. He probably folds two pair and better a decent amount too.
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flavas
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Very similar hand I just played. The line is a bit better in your hand because it's harder for him to have a flush.
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
CO: $5.14 (51.4 bb)
SB: $8.27 (82.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $8.27 (82.7 bb)
UTG+1: $4.78 (47.8 bb)
UTG+2: $10.56 (105.6 bb)
MP1: $25.37 (253.7 bb)
MP2: $4.22 (42.2 bb)
MP3: $5.04 (50.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Ah 6s
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 5 folds, SB completes, Hero checks
Flop: ($0.30) Th Qh 3d (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, SB calls $0.25
Turn: ($1.05) 7h (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.30, UTG+1 folds, SB calls $1.30
River: ($3.65) 5d (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.30, SB folds
Results: $3.65 pot ($0.16 rake)
Final Board: Th Qh 3d 7h 5d
SB mucked and lost (-$1.65 net)
Hero mucked Ah 6s and won $3.49 ($1.84 net)
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