TecmoSuperBowl
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So I was playing $1/2 NL live and had an interesting hand come up and I would really like everyone's advice.
I had K
K
and effective stacks were medium-ish.
I raised pre UTG to $3 and was called by UTG +1, UTG +2, UTG +3, MP, MP +1, MP +2, MP +3, HJ, CO, BT, BT +3, and (BT/2).
SB is probably a 74/2 who basically loves to see flops. His turn x/r % is 68%. He donk bets in position on the river when checked to on the flop. He usually plays from his cave and is a breakeven rakeback pro on Paradise Poker. He's an older gentleman who is set in his ways, but he dislikes Werther's Originals and enjoys kids on his lawn so he polarizes his range well. He folded.
BB 3bet to $4 and everyone folded to me (I now have the button).
I called with obvious implied odds if I hit my quads.
The pot is $4 (after rake).
The flop came
K
K
A
Bingo! I put BB on AK so now I've got him. Or so I thought...
He checks, obviously trying to be sneaky. I check back to show him that I was taught by Master Splinter and am far sneakier.
Everything was going as planned until the turn hit
A
Great. Now I'm dead to A
A
.
He checks again, clearly slowplaying his quads at this point. I bet $180 for pot control, leaving myself room to get away if need be.
He now x/r his remaining $196. Now if I learned anything from Mike McD it's that this is a position raise. But even so, he's really only reppping the one hand that beats me.
So what do I do? Easy fold amirite?
And please don't mention that pokerstove garbage. If it's not in Super System, then it's not in MY system. #10deuceftw
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[quote]So I was playing $1/2 NL live and had an interesting hand come up and I would really like everyone's advice.
I had K
K
and effective stacks were medium-ish.
[quote]I raised pre UTG to $3 and was called by UTG +1, UTG +2, UTG +3, MP, MP +1, MP +2, MP +3, HJ, CO, BT, BT +3, and (BT/2)
BB 3bet to $4 and everyone folded to me (I now have the button)..[/quote]
so, when the SB asked "Did the button move?" what did the dealer say?
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But to look at this hand in a realistic manner
You really think that anyone is going to stick around on a KKA flop with AQ or AJ or QQ or JJ?
Get real kid.
Folding AQ to a cbet would be a leak against someone who raises a decently wide range UTG and cbets frequently.
Lol, I can't believe I'm making a serious response to this "hypothetical" hand.
Good discussion you started, Tecmo.
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Yeah I mean it's pretty tough even though it would seem black and white.
Vs. this dude I think I could find a fold you said he's old and is he really doing this with only Ax for the aces full of kings? This is almost always AA old people never bluff so yeah I muck happily here.
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TecmoSuperBowl
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so, when the SB asked "Did the button move?" what did the dealer say?
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Get this - the dealer started berating the SB! Can you believe it? We as players always treat the dealers with respect and know that they have no bearing on the luck we have and yet he berates one of the players? Ridiculous.
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TecmoSuperBowl
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AxK
?
I assumed it was a second K
. I saw it happen once in my home game. Ergo, it's bound to happen in a casino where many more hands are played. It's just odds and I'm a math player, not one of those "I have 4 Ks so there's can't be a 5th one feel players."
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TecmoSuperBowl
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Vs. this dude I think I could find a fold you said he's old
Just to clarify, that guy folded preflop. But his presence at the table raises the overall nittyness level which is certainly something to consider in the hand.
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But I would call in order to keep my red line up
The red line is without a doubt of utmost importance here. If we don't balance it, then we're simply on a one way train to exploitable town. And they don't even allow paintball guns there.
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