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TecmoSuperBowl

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So I was playing $1/2 NL live and had an interesting hand come up and I would really like everyone's advice.

I had KSpadeKClub and effective stacks were medium-ish.

I raised pre UTG to $3 and was called by UTG +1, UTG +2, UTG +3, MP, MP +1, MP +2, MP +3, HJ, CO, BT, BT +3, and (BT/2).

SB is probably a 74/2 who basically loves to see flops. His turn x/r % is 68%. He donk bets in position on the river when checked to on the flop. He usually plays from his cave and is a breakeven rakeback pro on Paradise Poker. He's an older gentleman who is set in his ways, but he dislikes Werther's Originals and enjoys kids on his lawn so he polarizes his range well. He folded.

BB 3bet to $4 and everyone folded to me (I now have the button).

I called with obvious implied odds if I hit my quads.

The pot is $4 (after rake).

The flop came

KHeartKDiamondAClub

Bingo! I put BB on AK so now I've got him. Or so I thought...

He checks, obviously trying to be sneaky. I check back to show him that I was taught by Master Splinter and am far sneakier.

Everything was going as planned until the turn hit

ADiamond

Great. Now I'm dead to AHeartASpade.

He checks again, clearly slowplaying his quads at this point. I bet $180 for pot control, leaving myself room to get away if need be.

He now x/r his remaining $196. Now if I learned anything from Mike McD it's that this is a position raise. But even so, he's really only reppping the one hand that beats me.

So what do I do? Easy fold amirite?

And please don't mention that pokerstove garbage. If it's not in Super System, then it's not in MY system. #10deuceftw

Posted over 2 years ago

NixonTheGrouch

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I think you should learn to walk with a cane, wear a cowboy hat, and block TecmoSB on Twitter.

Posted over 2 years ago

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[quote]So I was playing $1/2 NL live and had an interesting hand come up and I would really like everyone's advice.

I had KSpadeKClub and effective stacks were medium-ish.

[quote]I raised pre UTG to $3 and was called by UTG +1, UTG +2, UTG +3, MP, MP +1, MP +2, MP +3, HJ, CO, BT, BT +3, and (BT/2)


BB 3bet to $4 and everyone folded to me (I now have the button)..[/quote]

so, when the SB asked "Did the button move?" what did the dealer say?

which

Posted over 2 years ago

TravD

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ROFLMAO!

Great post!

You sound like a top notch player to be able to make this kind of elite laydown!

Two thumbs up! WAY UP!

Posted over 2 years ago

TravD

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But to look at this hand in a realistic manner

You really think that anyone is going to stick around on a KKA flop with AQ or AJ or QQ or JJ?

Get real kid.

Posted over 2 years ago

zachd2323

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But to look at this hand in a realistic manner

You really think that anyone is going to stick around on a KKA flop with AQ or AJ or QQ or JJ?

Get real kid.



Folding AQ to a cbet would be a leak against someone who raises a decently wide range UTG and cbets frequently.

Lol, I can't believe I'm making a serious response to this "hypothetical" hand.

Good discussion you started, Tecmo.

Posted over 2 years ago

SCS

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So I was playing $1/2 NL live and had an interesting hand come up and I would really like everyone's advice.

I had KSpadeKClub and effective stacks were medium-ish.

The flop came

KHeartKDiamondAClub

Bingo! I put BB on AK so now I've got him. Or so I thought...



AxKHorseshoe?

Posted over 2 years ago

chuck651

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Yeah I mean it's pretty tough even though it would seem black and white.

Vs. this dude I think I could find a fold you said he's old and is he really doing this with only Ax for the aces full of kings? This is almost always AA old people never bluff so yeah I muck happily here.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Zitouni

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I always face AA when I have KK.
So EV dictates that it is an easy fold.

But I would call in order to keep my red line up

Posted over 2 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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so, when the SB asked "Did the button move?" what did the dealer say?

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Get this - the dealer started berating the SB! Can you believe it? We as players always treat the dealers with respect and know that they have no bearing on the luck we have and yet he berates one of the players? Ridiculous.

Posted over 2 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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AxKHorseshoe?


I assumed it was a second KClub. I saw it happen once in my home game. Ergo, it's bound to happen in a casino where many more hands are played. It's just odds and I'm a math player, not one of those "I have 4 Ks so there's can't be a 5th one feel players."

Posted over 2 years ago

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TecmoSuperBowl

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Vs. this dude I think I could find a fold you said he's old


Just to clarify, that guy folded preflop. But his presence at the table raises the overall nittyness level which is certainly something to consider in the hand.

Posted over 2 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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But I would call in order to keep my red line up


The red line is without a doubt of utmost importance here. If we don't balance it, then we're simply on a one way train to exploitable town. And they don't even allow paintball guns there.

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