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the irony is the same online button clicking you hated on in the other thread is exactly what you need. you need to play more hands at lower stakes where you're not forced to leave if stacked. constant fear of getting stacked and having to quit is just a horrible condition to be playing under.

playing scared money live will lead to: (1) not playing difficult, marginal situations and as a result, not improving very quickly; (2) playing 20 hands per hour, making it even more difficult to improve. even 4-tabling 6-max online is probably about 350 hands per hour; (3) more than likely grinding out at best a meager expected earn, effectively wasting your time considering that none of playing tight, breaking even, barely improving is particularly fun.

you seem to have a genuine interest in improving but you're playing under conditions that will only teach you bad habits and prevent you from improving.

Sorry man, but you're being ridiculous. You don't want to see a cheap turn. You want to get your money in the middle. EternityII ran the numbers. If you're scared of QQ or of a diamond or straight draw getting there you should take up tiddly winks. Suck outs happen. Set over set happens. Get as much money in the middle as you can when you have the best of it. If you win, great. If you don't, move on to the next hand.

What I am saying is that I might have been able to play the extremely wet flop differently when the pot was multi-way. I might have been able to see a turn card cheaply instead of putting myself into the bad situation of having to call an all in.

So you want to let other players in the hand see a cheap turn card before deciding to put your money in? How much money do you expect to get on the turn from villains if the turn card is a blank? How does this compare to getting stacks in on the flop?

Yes, deciding to play for stacks on that flop is a no brainer.

Agree.

No, deciding to play for stacks when the 10 comes on the turn is not so easy.

So why let it get to that point?

Make sense?

Not if you like money.

So why let it get to that point?

Look man. I did let it get to that point by calling the all in.

Look guys. I appreciate the advice and all but Im not so sure that I want to follow advice from people who were only breakeven on Pokerstars and basically just made your money from the VIP program

That is the truth about 99% of the online grinders

All losing players whose bread and butter was putting in volume and cashing in on the VIP program and rakeback

It is why so many donks were forced to move to Canada or Mexico after black friday

I am more interested in becoming a winning player that doesn't rely on gimmicks or perks

I have seen good players fold sets many times when they knew they were beat and they were right. So how come you guys are telling me to always stack off with a set?

Lol this is my last response to you because you're clearly ignorant of many things. I'd wager a large amount that you would be unable to breakeven on PokerStars so even if we all were breakeven players, then you should still listen. But I don't care anymore. You should probably just fold middle sets on wet flops from now on and concentrate on making more sweeping generalizations when they don't jive with what you think is right.

Seriously wondering now if this is all a practical joke.

no money in live poker. everyone's solid.

I've been a member here for almost 2 years now and the best advice I can give you is to watch a lot of videos and listen to what some of the people are saying on the forums. It's not always going to be perfect advice but usually if the majority are saying the same thing, they are probably right. There's no doubt you have to think for yourself in poker, but use all the info available and then make a decision.

I personally started playing poker probably about 7 or 8 years ago. I read some basic books back then and thought I was pretty good. But in reality, I was probably a break-even or a small winner at that time. When games got tougher I would say I got to the point where I was a slight loser at any meaningful online stakes. I just played really weak-tight and the way I thought about a lot of spots was just completely wrong. I look back now and realize how much I've improved since I've been a member here. It truly is amazing and definitely worth the subscription. You aren't going to become a really good player in this game unless you listen to people that are better than you. It's just not going to happen. The games are too tough today. Take my advice for what it's worth. It's from my own experience and I'm just trying to help.

I'm definitely with OP on this one. In fact I think I'd even fold queens in this spot. I mean, with all the money going in, for sure someone's got JT and you're just asking to get sucked out on. Even boating up with the 9 on the turn is no good as this then gives villain an open-ended straight-flush draw, and he's just bound to pawn you on the river. Not to mention that the other guy probably just made quads.
Fold, fold, fold all day long.

Look guys. I appreciate the advice and all but Im not so sure that I want to follow advice from people who were only breakeven on Pokerstars and basically just made your money from the VIP program

That is the truth about 99% of the online grinders

All losing players whose bread and butter was putting in volume and cashing in on the VIP program and rakeback

It is why so many donks were forced to move to Canada or Mexico after black friday

I am more interested in becoming a winning player that doesn't rely on gimmicks or perks

I have seen good players fold sets many times when they knew they were beat and they were right. So how come you guys are telling me to always stack off with a set?

Good luck with beating 1/2 live NL. You'll need it.

I am more interested in becoming a winning player that doesn't rely on math or learning from my peers

FYP

cant someone with the power just freeze/delete these threads and end the madness/pointlessness/bashing/low rate forum antics?

... I cant help reading it all and its lowering my intelligence.

no money in live poker. everyone's solid.

I like you

ROFL!

You guys are killing me haha

Good stuff