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Okay so here is the spot



The original CO opener was a one tabling fish with a half stack.
The flat in the SB is by a 18/14 winning reg over 1.2K hands.

I chose to squeeze my AQs for value and be pretty happy getting it in vs the fish and having the reg leave the pot. Instead the Fish folds and the reg back raises me and I proceed to 5bet jam and turn the nuts...Ship it.
He also gave me shit in chat after the pot, which was amusing...

To me the regs range for flatting vs that opponent OOP is 55-TT, sutied broadways AJ & AQ. I think he 3Bets JJ+ and AQ+ for value vs the fish and it didn't make alot of sense to me. I felt he had a mid pair and just thought I was full of shit.

I think AQs is good enough vs his range to ship even though his play looks super strong.

What do you guys think?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players - View hand 1469657
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Hero (BB): $104.35
UTG: $100.00
UTG+1: $41.50
MP: $41.50
CO: $53.15
BTN: $100.00
SB: $103.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A Q
3 folds, CO raises to $2.50, 1 fold, SB calls $2, Hero raises to $11, 1 fold, SB raises to $25, Hero raises to $104.35 all in, SB calls $78 all in

Flop: ($208.50) 5 7 J (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($208.50) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($208.50) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $208.50
Hero shows A Q (a flush, Ace high)
SB shows 8 8 (a pair of Eights)
Hero wins $205.50
(Rake: $3.00)

TBO, I don't really like a 5bet shove here at all. Yes, it worked out for you here, but typically a decent reg doesn't 4bet/stack off with worse. This hand is probably the best case scenerio for you but otherwise, you're never getting in good because they're never calling off with a worse ace or KQ. Unless there is a dynamic going on that I don't know about here, I would think that a decent reg could definitely have a stronger range than you're giving him credit for. Have you been 3betting/squeezing a lot this session? Also your 3bet is really really large. Do you have a read on CO's f3bet stat?

Okay thanks, I really felt he couldn't have me crushed, it was more than likely a flip, and im a degenerate!

The dynamic didnt start till after this hand, but I had been pretty aggro.
The fish was playin a 44/10 and hadnt folded to a 3B

As for sizing, any less than 12X is too small innit? I think its better to 3B larger when OOP.

So over call pre and go from there is most optimal?

I mean really, whether you're talking $9 or $11 it isn't THAT big of a deal. The bigger issue is that you say you had been pretty aggro up to that point. That IMO makes villains play that much stronger. Typically if it were just him and the fish, he's 3betting JJ+ all day, but with a high aggro player to act behind, he very well may flat a lot of these hands in hopes that this exact scenerio happens.

I wouldn't say that overcalling here is optimal. I do like the squeeze, I was just saying I don't like the 5bet shove.

I think if SB his decent, his range for flatting a half-stacking fish OOP should be incredibly narrow (setmining OOP is marginal at best, and his value 3betting range should be wider than normal if the PFR's a fish). Maybe 88-TT/QJs...that kind of hand strength...Our squeeze is definitely fine (and given the cold-caller and positions (and our hand strength), I think the sizing is fine. I do think, though, that we can profit a tad more by overcalling pre since we can keep in the PFR's dominated hands and AQs plays really well postflop (With AQo, I'd be more inclined to squeeze). As played, I like the 5bet shove unless your image is really crazy and villain would trap here with a monster (and in order for him to not 3bet that for value vs a fish would mean that either your rep is insane OR that there were multiple aggro players behind and thought there'd be a likely squeeze).

Thanks for your insight RE.
As for the villains play, do you not think it is abit thin calling off with 88 in that spot? Or once he has made it $25 does he just hope for a flip and call it off. I mean, I feel we still have FE and I showed pure strength, 3B squeezing then 5B jamming. I dont want to question his judgement as he is winning about 12K on PTR and obv a better player.

Thanks for your insight RE.
As for the villains play, do you not think it is abit thin calling off with 88 in that spot? Or once he has made it $25 does he just hope for a flip and call it off. I mean, I feel we still have FE and I showed pure strength, 3B squeezing then 5B jamming. I dont want to question his judgement as he is winning about 12K on PTR and obv a better player.

It was thin Josh...I didn't mention that in my post. Yes, maybe I don't 100% like the 5bet shove with AQ, but I think the stackoff with 88 is even worse! However, most people at $100NL aren't 4bet/folding...especially 100bb's deep.