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Escaping Micromania: Episode Five

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Escaping Micromania: Episode Five by slowlane123

Slowlane123 talks about beating 25nl and 50nl and then reviews some hand histories.

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Slowlane123 goes back to the basics in his series that helps DC members escape the micros and make their way towards the mid-stakes full-ring games.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 53 minutes long
  • Posted over 1 year ago

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zooroaster

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Watching that last hand history, how often do you think the villain shows up with TT or even 55? I can see a 12/9 flatting TT very easily OOP.

Posted over 1 year ago

slowlane123

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Watching that last hand history, how often do you think the villain shows up with TT or even 55? I can see a 12/9 flatting TT very easily OOP.



I can't watch the video back right now though I remember the HH (but not my thoughts/review during this video).

I think it's pretty unlikely given the x/r on the turn. TT never x/r turn with equity + SD value. 55 maybe, but very rarely imo.

Posted over 1 year ago

zooroaster

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I can't watch the video back right now though I remember the HH (but not my thoughts/review during this video).

I think it's pretty unlikely given the x/r on the turn. TT never x/r turn with equity + SD value. 55 maybe, but very rarely imo.



Thanks for the reply and I am really loving the series. However, pardon my being a noob, but what does "x/r" mean?

Posted over 1 year ago

Superchimp8

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I hardly ever see anyone else use this, but it means check-raise. If you're pretty anal about nomenclature, using c/r to mean the same thing looks more like it means call-raise (or backraise), which is in general a possible action on a single street. Some people just go through a little more trouble to ensure less confusion with their notation.

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Superchimp8

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Oh, I also wanted to sort of emphatically concur with what you're saying in the video. I've mostly spent a lot of time moving up and down between 50nl and 100nl over the past year and a half due to some significant long-term negative variance (and subsequently the bad play that can follow when you're not a hardcore experienced grinder). However, a short time ago I dropped down to 25nl for a period of about 40k hands to get some confidence back. I have to agree, 25nl is almost entirely made up of caricatures of poker players at 50nl and above.
The only thing of real substance I would add to the conversation is, 25nl deep-stack play is a little different from 50 and 100nl. There is this sort of strange phenomenon that occurs with nits (possibly at all levels, but particularly at 25nl): they have a very hard time folding, even when it's obvious that they should (I watched them get stacked for 200bb+ vs rec players with 4straights/4flushes on rivers), after they have made a raise earlier post-flop.
An example: we have JT opening from HJ, and a 14/12 calls the SB. This guy likely has a 5% range here. There just isn't enough room for SC's, and he 3b's 4%, so he almost never has AK. That pretty much leaves pp's and anywhere from 4-8 non-paired, suited combos. We are both on 75 dollars, or 300bb. We see a flop of 8d9d4c. We cbet say, 1 dollar into 1.50, planning to bet 3 streets on a lot of boards. Now sometimes, he'll raise to 4.5 or something, and it's an easy call. But a lot of times, they will look at this wet board, and kinda freak out, which I suppose is their normal state of mind when they start putting a raise into a pot. Sometimes he will raise to like, $7, or even $9, or something ridiculous like that. At first this looks like we might fold without the FD, getting somewhere around 1.5-to-1, when we won't hit the straight more than 16% on the turn. And 2 of our outs are "unclean". This 25nl nit, though, will hardly ever semi-bluff, even if he has the combos to do it with preflop, and when he does, he will virtually never put in this much on a bluff of any kind anyway. He basically has top or middle set with this raise size. And even if a flush does come off, you can still stack him for 300bb. He will not fold. I watched my wife do this many, many times on Stars when they first introduced the 250bb buyin back in early 2010. She'd call a massive raise, and then just overbet turn, and shove river for anywhere from 1/3 to 2/3 pot, depending on how deep they were. She was laughing telling me about it, so i ran a filter on like 150k of her hands in HEV, and it was like, the nits couldn't find the fold button. Anyway, I have however noticed that 100nl nits could more often find the fold button after taking an ultra strong line and a draw hits when you're quite deep. So there's kind of another difference between 25nl and the higher stakes.

Posted over 1 year ago

slowlane123

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Interesting response, thanks for taking the time.

I've actually noticed similar things in the last couple of days as I've been coaching a 25nl deep student on Stars. It is a bit of a mystery :-)

Sounds like a good spot to bluff at the 100nl tables then doesn't it? Call on any rando draw and bluff the scare cards.

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