Ulkis
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Even though bottomset did not run good I think this is the strongest of his 3 videos here because there was a clear theme - cbetting and board texture - and this topic was discussed at every opportunity. So not just random tid-bits of information but a clear plan and structure.
Good video, thanks
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Dinghy
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Blixx
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Great video, as Ulkis said havinga running theme for the video really adds to the overall quality. The description should also mention these are Deep tables.
1) At the 45min mark you have the QQ hand OOP vs the aggro player and check/call on the AK7r board. Makes sense to let him bet his whole range there but how far are you willing to go? What if he fires 1/2 to 2/3 pot on the K turn, assume you call since the board didn't really change but do you call a 3rd barrel on the river J?
2) 56min TT vs 40bb stack on the Q76r flop. You bet small on flop & get called then mention on the 3 turn you think your ahead but might have to fold. I find these are tough spots vs the short stacks and usually end up making a crying call getting the 3:1ish odds. What circumstances would make you fold the river?
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bottomset
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With regards to isolation raises.
Is your isolate raising range greater than your open raising range? (positions other than Cu/Bu)
I'm not sure, it might be wider I guess I don't really have an exact range for my isolations(or opening for that matter)
I think a lot of that is due to the feeling out period that occurs, with new players, I kind of adjust based on how they react to the isolations, and how the rest of the table is playing vs them
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bottomset
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Great video, as Ulkis said havinga running theme for the video really adds to the overall quality. The description should also mention these are Deep tables.
1) At the 45min mark you have the QQ hand OOP vs the aggro player and check/call on the AK7r board. Makes sense to let him bet his whole range there but how far are you willing to go? What if he fires 1/2 to 2/3 pot on the K turn, assume you call since the board didn't really change but do you call a 3rd barrel on the river J?
2) 56min TT vs 40bb stack on the Q76r flop. You bet small on flop & get called then mention on the 3 turn you think your ahead but might have to fold. I find these are tough spots vs the short stacks and usually end up making a crying call getting the 3:1ish odds. What circumstances would make you fold the river?
on the QQ hand, I think checking there is generally a good idea with a hand with showdown value, but one that can't take a lot of action and isn't all that likely to get called by worse hands, its a dry board and his range will frequently miss there, but will likely bluff a fair bit of the time, its a small pot so free cards aren't too much of a problem either, I think similar hands like say KQ, KJ, JJ or weaker Ax hands like A5-AT(albeit most of these won't be in my ep range, ocassionally the suited variety) are ones that I can take this line with
as for how far to take things, it really ends up being a feel thing, how likely is this player going to continue firing, in this hand though when he checks the turn its often he has some showdown value, so I would def bet a AT hand on the river(pretty small maybe 1/2 pot or so), and I think I should have considered a small valuebet there even with QQ
#2. I think the might fold was if he c/r the turn since I think he calls with worse hands, but is unlikely to c/r worse hands and I have very little equity vs better hands there, as for the river I'm not sure how I would handle a river shove from him, if he checks I probably check behind since I didn't have much of a read
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Dinghy
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I'm not sure, it might be wider I guess I don't really have an exact range for my isolations(or opening for that matter)
I think a lot of that is due to the feeling out period that occurs, with new players, I kind of adjust based on how they react to the isolations, and how the rest of the table is playing vs them
Going to open up one table and give that a try.
At the moment I have been starting with an open range/iso range and then increasing or decreasing when the situation requires it. I also limp behind sometimes, so it doesn't seem like I'm always raising limpers.
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JBurdan
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Hey bottomset, just joined the site today and this was the 1st video I watched, great video you hit on alot of points I was wondering about when playing vs bad players and showed that board texture is extremely important in mirco stakes thanks for the video.
J
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JanLul79
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