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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by bottomset (Micro/Small Stakes)

Nice vid. A hand that i don´t understand: @ ~20:00 you have AKo UTG. You 3-barrel OOP - Isn´t this going to be called by sets only most of the time ?

Nice vid. A hand that i don´t understand: @ ~20:00 you have AKo UTG. You 3-barrel OOP - Isn´t this going to be called by sets only most of the time ?

well its hard to make a set, with me having an A, a 4 hitting on the turn, there are 8combos of sets possible, however AA/99(4 of the 8) are very unlikely given how the action developed, AA would have to overcall preflop which is pretty rare, 99 would have to call 2bets on a A844 board if he did that and hit the river, well thats just unlucky for me(and bad play on his part)

His flop and turn calls were quick which is generally a draw or TP type hand, people that have sets typically take sometime before calling(or quickly raise) the only straight draws were gutshots, so they were unlikely unless they were hands like 65dd, so his hand looks most like AQ-AT or a draw(which missed)

AT-AQ is 24combos factoring in my cards/the board, A9 is 6combos of additional hands that beat me, but if he is showing up with A9 here that likely means he will have other Ax hands a lot of the time and I don't expect him to fold the river with them, A8 is 6combos, A4 is 4combos, hands like 54dd, 64dd make sense too

with the Ad on the board, the number of diamond draws is typically pretty small, since there is only 1combo of each(KJdd, KTdd etc)

so his calling range that loses is AT-AQ which is 24combos, plus some A5, A3, A2 type hands occasionally as well

his calling/shoving range that beats us is 88, 44, A4, A8, A9, 54dd, 64dd which is 22combos, but decent chance he raises the 2pr or better hands earlier in the hand

so it looks pretty close, I didn't think A9 was in his range but since it is it likely means a lot more Ax hands are in there too, and they all might calldown as well, I'm pretty sure he wasn't folding A9 there if he missed 2pr(speed of his call almost made it seem like he didn't realize he hit a 9)

I loved this video as I mostly play full ring at this level.

All the points I would have queried I have been brought up in this thread.

I was happy to see stats - my stats match identical except for Agression Turn and Agression River, where I'm definitely more of a pussy (I used to be more aggressive but toned it down due to variance). So it's good to see a pro's stats and compare.

Hey dude, I watched the first half hour and will get to the rest later. Good job so far!

Here are some comments I put together that may complement your audio commentary:

1:15 - I would almost always pot the flop here with 73o, because he's folding so much of his range and you'd be happy to steal it. This applies to just about any limped SB vs. my BB hand, really.

1:45 - I am not sure I like your 3-bet shove with AJ since none of your "outs" are all that great if you get called, and I don't think its a board that many people will try a naked c/r bluff. But for him to limp-call pre, his range is pretty weak so that helps your FE some.

6:30 - I probably wouldn't fold AQ to a reraise in a shorthanded setting there, but if you think that your opponents at this level aren't good at adjusting to a shorthanded table when it happens then you can keep giving them that level of respect that you would at a full table.

10:15 - J7o isn't really worth considering a call with OOP no matter how sweet the odds are (unless its against the world's biggest fish and you have deep stacks)

15:30 - I think your J2hh call preflop is bad, nothing you hit will be particularly great except trip 2's or two pair, and you're somewhat often in a reverse-implied odds situation too. I'd prefer 85s.

18:15 - the better your opponents are, the worse it is to openraise little pairs in EP. I prefer to balance my range by limping more big hands rather than raising more little ones, if my opponents are aggressively fighting for pots that I open when they have position on me.

18:30 - I would somewhat often check that flop with AT to induce bluffs and control the pot a little. You can maybe get more valuebets out of them on later streets that way, too. But betting is fine too, and probably standard.

22:00 - T8o is a bad hand to isolate a UTG limper, even if he is a fish. Unless he's specifically noted to limp-fold too much, and all the players behind you are super tight.

23:30 - I think I'd shove the KQhh against the fish coldcaller, to isolate the all-in player and keep the fish from calling with a weak hand and outflopping you, given his stack size it works pretty well. With KQ if you make a hand, chances are he won't pay you off, but if you had like a medium pair there I'd say call, because your equity against the shorty is not great but if you hit a set you may win a nice sidepot too.

29:45 - With QQ on a J high board, I'd much rather bet out like you did than go for a tricky c/r, because a lot of his hands have 6 outs and giving him a free card is pretty dangerous (plus even if he doesn't have those cards, your action is killed if they come!). A c/r is a better option with AA here imo, since you aren't terribly concerned about whatever card might come on the turn if he checks it back.

1:45 - I am not sure I like your 3-bet shove with AJ since none of your "outs" are all that great if you get called, and I don't think its a board that many people will try a naked c/r bluff. But for him to limp-call pre, his range is pretty weak so that helps your FE some.

I was really blown away by this hand. I would have definitely folded with a Jack high flush draw. You seemed to know opposition would fold to a shove, more power to you.

22:00 - T8o is a bad hand to isolate a UTG limper, even if he is a fish. Unless he's specifically noted to limp-fold too much, and all the players behind you are super tight.

I would agree - but I figured that you were just mixing up your game. Aren't you supposed to raise with trash occasionally?

definitely the best fullring vid so far on DC

Aren't you supposed to raise with trash occasionally?

No. When there are so many cool speculative hands that actually have value that you could play instead, raising trash is unnecessary and generally ill-advised.

hey, i joined for a month at deuces b/c of DJ's Nit or Not series, as i have been playing FR lately. when i came across this vid. it was an added bonus for me! i hope that you put out another one. i will have to watch this one again, to get a good feel for the moves. i also think its awesome for you that you are basically getting a double-whammy w/ this vid... not only are you coaching those under you (a la myself), but you are essentially getting a free coaching session from DJ, with his critique.. and the kicker is that we all get to benefit from it.

anyway, i have been playing 50nl FR and here are my stats so far:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc12/imnuts22/50nlstats.jpg

i'm happy w/ the overall winrate.. but look at the aggression stats... 1.5-1.7 AF seems puny and weak compared to you... seems as though i may be missing some value and i need to learn how and when is appropriate to turn up the heat.. request to focus on that in the next vid.

thanks.

edit: don't know why the links/image for my stats didn't "highlight" for you to click and see.. but oh well.. you can paste to the address bar if you really care, i guess.

22:00 - T8o is a bad hand to isolate a UTG limper, even if he is a fish. Unless he's specifically noted to limp-fold too much, and all the players behind you are super tight.

yeah, sometimes I get a little overboard with isolating, anything with some connected possibilities and I go with it

as for the ATs hand I have been checking more in spots like that lately, and the results have been good, I like betting as well.

the QQ hand, yeah I agree with that with QQ, and checking with AA being better, though since he was peeling AT I'd prob bet both since he's putting in a fair bit really bad, and i rather not give him freecards when he's calling with those UI hands

the 73o one, I guess I am a little more passive, I do bet there a fair bit will try out betting more though, agree with the J7o, J2s comments just a little sloppy play with J2s(I think i did fold J7o after some thought)

AQ I typically give some credit to the first RR, and .5/1 fr players aren't typically adjusting to SH situations too much, I don't like folding it, but I think its ok given what I've seen at the level

hey, i joined for a month at deuces b/c of DJ's Nit or Not series, as i have been playing FR lately. when i came across this vid. it was an added bonus for me! i hope that you put out another one. i will have to watch this one again, to get a good feel for the moves. i also think its awesome for you that you are basically getting a double-whammy w/ this vid... not only are you coaching those under you (a la myself), but you are essentially getting a free coaching session from DJ, with his critique.. and the kicker is that we all get to benefit from it.

anyway, i have been playing 50nl FR and here are my stats so far:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc12/imnuts22/50nlstats.jpg

i'm happy w/ the overall winrate.. but look at the aggression stats... 1.5-1.7 AF seems puny and weak compared to you... seems as though i may be missing some value and i need to learn how and when is appropriate to turn up the heat.. request to focus on that in the next vid.

thanks.

edit: don't know why the links/image for my stats didn't "highlight" for you to click and see.. but oh well.. you can paste to the address bar if you really care, i guess.

glad to hear you liked the video, I will be making more, I haven't been feeling too great the past couple days so I didn't get it done yet , DC really focuses on making quality videos, so I don't want to rush one out, just to have a new one out there

its tough to leakfind from stats, $won, winrate are very good, it looks like you are playing a little too passive, I'll try to focus on postflop aggression(and some preflop as well) in the next video

New to DC. I exclusively play full ring, usually NL50 and PLHE50. I found this video useful, because I recognize the need to isolate players with high VPIP and/ or high fold to CB %. I believe you called this your bread and butter. Those are probably the two most important stats I should be looking at when deciding to isolate then? Does it matter much what their cold call % is? I would assume that if their VPIP was high, I'd like a high cc% also. Maybe a low cc% would be okay also, because if they fold I don't mind, but I guess I'd rather they call, then fold the flop to my CB. I think I remember seeing an isolation play with T7s from LP. With hands like this vs. 1 limper, what stats are you generally looking for the limper? 25% plus VPIP? 70% plus fold to CB?

I have a question about limping in EP: Usually i consider many callers a good thing with pocket pairs. I try to play them only if i see a chance to get 10 times my initial call -> So if i get 2 or 3 callers i already got 2 or 3 times my investment + there is a better chance someone has a hand / a draw to pay me off. Does this make any sense to you ?

You made a comment on how FR TAG players don't like to get stacked with overpairs. Due to this, they play them weakly and implement pot control too much. This pretty much somes me up with overpairs. I believe it comes from the early days of learning to play and trying not to pay off sets.

Assuming we have an overpair and were the preflop aggressor.

What do you look for in opponent/stack/board texture/IP or OOP/the way the hand has already played, to determine if you are folding to the raise? calling to evaluate? playing for stacks?

Loved the video! Looking forward to the next one.

New to DC. I exclusively play full ring, usually NL50 and PLHE50. I found this video useful, because I recognize the need to isolate players with high VPIP and/ or high fold to CB %. I believe you called this your bread and butter. Those are probably the two most important stats I should be looking at when deciding to isolate then? Does it matter much what their cold call % is? I would assume that if their VPIP was high, I'd like a high cc% also. Maybe a low cc% would be okay also, because if they fold I don't mind, but I guess I'd rather they call, then fold the flop to my CB. I think I remember seeing an isolation play with T7s from LP. With hands like this vs. 1 limper, what stats are you generally looking for the limper? 25% plus VPIP? 70% plus fold to CB?

I don't have any set in stone rules, generally I look for players that play pretty predictably postflop, the tighter players frequently play fit or fold with their small pairs(which often is the bulk of their limp/call range) and its very hard to hit a set, or have the board setup that I can't bluff them off of it, the looser players you can valuebet much lighter, they let you take freecards at will and won't extract well when they have you beat

I have a question about limping in EP: Usually i consider many callers a good thing with pocket pairs. I try to play them only if i see a chance to get 10 times my initial call -> So if i get 2 or 3 callers i already got 2 or 3 times my investment + there is a better chance someone has a hand / a draw to pay me off. Does this make any sense to you ?

multiwaypots are good for when you have a hand that is weak most of the time, but very strong when you hit and likely to beat many opponents with ease, also many players will often overvalue weak draws in limped pots such as drawing to 2pr with bottom pair on flop, weak flushdraws(with nothing else going for them), non-nut gutshots hands that when a ton of money goes in often are in really bad shape, my goal in limped pots is to try and have the best draw and crush when both draws hit, or best made hand and get value from people overvaluing a weaker made hand

sets/nfd are the types that come up a fair bit where you can get a lot of money in very good