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V1 is playing a 17/10/3/2k+ hands and V2's a 15/9/1/550 hands. I was thinking that one of them might have the nut FD w/overs (maybe V1's shoving to try to isolate), BUT since I made a smaller raise PF and nobody 3b me, I can't really think one of them has a large over pair. So.... Thoughts?

$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 214582
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V1: $375.10
Hero (UTG): $240.30
V2: $189.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with 2 2
Hero raises to $6, V3 calls $6, 3 folds, V2 calls $6, V1 calls $6, 1 fold, V4 calls $4

Flop: ($31.00) 3 8 2 (5 players)
V4 checks, Hero bets $20, V3 folds, TheC*** raises to $59.50, BELL*** raises to $369.10 all in, V4 folds, Hero???

If they're solid regs, I'm only stacking off here with middle set or obv top set.

I think you can make a solid fold, if your opponnents are good and nitty.

You say - "Hey, I have an overpair guys"
V1 says - "LOL, I have that covered!!"
V2 says - "Well one of you has a set but I'm cool with that"

Since 222 is essentially the same hand as AA here then its a fold without reads.



Just one thought though...
Is it just the HH converter or is this 3-way? Because if its 3 handed this turns on its head.

I'm going to make an argument for calling.

First of all, I rarely play 55- for a raise UTG in FR. I usually fold 55- because of flop situations like this, as well as being OOP with a weak hand after a missed flop in a raised pot. However, if I do play them, I do open with a raise.

I think the player dynamics merit a shove/call. The HH is a little messed up (TheC is V2 and BELL is V1? Would have liked to have seen stack sizes of V3 and V4 also), but I think there is a good chance this is a squeeze play. Suppose V1 has the nut FD like you suspected. Suppose he also puts V2 on 88+ and you on TT+ and AQ+. That's a pretty good place to put the squeeze on both of you. Neither of you can rule out 88, and unless one of you has 88, how can you call with only one pair?

Now lets look at the value side for V1: if he had a better set, why is he blowing the passive V2 out of the pot, not to mention you? Wouldn't he trap by just flatting? It's true that V1 might consider V2 locked in with an overpair, but how about you? Why is he blowing you out also?

It would be good to know V2's PF 3B%. If he basically never 3B's, likes to slowplay QQ+, I'm liking the call even more.

In general, I'm going to err on the side of stacking off with bottom set than folding it. No shame in going broke with a hand like that.

I was trying to cut down on the random player's information that I thought was not needed. Sorry if that made the post confusing, but we were 9 handed and everyone involved in the hand had at least 75BBs. V2's PF 3B% is a little under 2%, according to what I have over roughly 600 hands.

I was trying to cut down on the random player's information that I thought was not needed. Sorry if that made the post confusing, but we were 9 handed and everyone involved in the hand had at least 75BBs. V2's PF 3B% is a little under 2%, according to what I have over roughly 600 hands.

Well 600 isn't enough to make a decision with any certainty, but I still like the aggressive call over a fold.