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button hooked

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just sat down at table so i have a very small sample size
villian is: 43/21 steal/50 aggr/5.0 hands 15


should i fold this or move all in? Am i pot committed?

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 18382
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Hero (MP2): $25.00
CO: $17.95
BTN: $25.00
SB: $22.15
BB: $4.55
UTG: $57.90
UTG+1: $24.60
UTG+2: $31.65
MP1: $4.20

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP2 with K Heart A Heart
UTG raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 4 folds, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.35) K Diamond 3 Diamond 8 Club (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.50, UTG calls $3.50

Turn: ($12.35) 4 Club (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.75, UTG raises to $11.50, ?

Posted over 4 years ago

fccman

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I dunno really, what I've slowly been learning is that MOST of time I play a big pot with with 1 pair even if it's TPTK I'm not in good shape unless it's a total fish and in this case he kinda looks like a fish but it's only 15 hands I would have a hard time laying this down but like I said I've been burned so much with 1 pair hands that I think I might have to. It's not like he limp called preflop. you could be ahead of alot of his pairs, I think we can discount two pair on this board, so JJ+ is what I'm thinking. I'm basically just disregarding his stats and playing this straightup and in that case folding here is really painful and it's the dreaded min raise as well....

I wanna say fold but I don't think I could myself.

Posted over 4 years ago

sickbay

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insta call. if he hit set. reload. but he is most likely a donkey with KQ or AK. or 2 diamonds. too many draws not to call.

can you tell us what actually happend? did he have 88?

Posted over 4 years ago

entelechy

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You are likely cooked here. My guess is 88. But, that said, I don't think I could lay this hand down in the flow of the game. I'd probably call and then hate myself for not folding.

So, I guess what I am saying is that a fold is probably in order, but I probably wouldn't make one against an unknown. But I am a huge callbox in spots like this, so don't go by me.

I'd love to hear which flavor of set he rolled over on you. Reply with results when you're ready.

Posted over 4 years ago

button hooked

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villian showed up with kk here. A weird line but he hid his hand well. I put him on a hand like aq,qj,j10 suited ak,kq,kj. Figured if he flop 2 pair (outside chance but it is 25nl and some people cant fold suited cards) i would have some redraws. I knew i might be up against a made hand but figured villian would rerasie me on the flop in case i was semi bluffing or had AA. Mabey i should of bet 4.25 on the flop and forced him to define his line a little more? I had a hard time not jamming here becuase their was no history between us and the equity in the pot. Does jamming the turn sound ok?

Posted over 4 years ago

nick716

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I get it in on the turn almost always and if I got 4bet PF I am getting it in as well.

Posted over 4 years ago

button hooked

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button hooked

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The more i look at this hand i think wow could it be any more complicated. There is so much money in the pot by the turn it is so hard to get away from. i was trying to protect against a draw and get value.I do agree alot of fish might make this play but i just hate going broke here with tptk 100bb deep. When villian min check raises on the turn do we think he would do this on a flush draw. Villian would be making it more costly to draw with no fold equity. A player with 100bb deep must know he is not getting any fold equity and the min/chk rasie is showing villian is ready to stack off. So for the most part we can take him of a draw i think. That leaves hands we can beat kq,kj,qq jj and these are pretty thin i think in this spot after I show a strong line (pre flop rerasie, bet flop bet turn. Now lets look at the range that villian can beat us most likley. AA,KK,88,33 im ruling out 2 pair here because of the prefop rerasie. I just hate folding here but we are cooked more often then not i think agianst a deep stacked player. I didnt give the villian much respect becuase the game was just starting but i should of looked at how much he bought in the game for (100/bb) for some kind of clue. If the villian bought in for 50/bb were getting it in on the turn all the time. imo
Does this even make sense or am i over thinking this?

Posted over 4 years ago

tclark828

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what you say definitely makes sense, but given the stats of this particular villain and the drawy nature of the board, i think stacking off is ok.

Posted over 4 years ago




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