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fccman

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villian in this hand is Laggy thus far....

66/27/3.2 over 132 hands
I have two notes on this guy:

2barrelled small on turn 3 into 10 pot and folded to a raise of his turn bet.
limp button with 45s.


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Hero (BTN): $50.00
SB: $25.45
BB: $102.20
UTG: $76.35
UTG+1: $51.60
UTG+2: $50.00
MP1: $20.50
MP2: $170.35
CO: $45.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with T Diamond K Heart
4 folds, MP2 raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 5 Heart Q Diamond T Heart (2 players)
MP2 bets $3, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($9.75) 9 Diamond (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $7.50, MP2 calls $7.50

River: ($24.75) 9 Club (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

when he called the turn I really thought he was gonna show me Q rag or something so I felt it best just to check behind the river. I really wanted to bet the river, wasn't afraid of the 9 per say just more thought I'd hate to run into Q rag here and lose more. he had put a serious dent in some people's stacks by playing some garbage but his credit his postflop play in those other hands he got max value and people wouldn't fold.

Posted over 4 years ago

fccman

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I guess the FC can't get no love when posting an inquiry....

Posted over 4 years ago

iceit

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I think that when he calls here on the turn, you pretty much have to be done with the hand. Especially with the note that you have on him where he folded the turn to a raise. He seems like the type of player that will never let go of a flush draw or a Q here in this spot. Either way I don't think you are ahead here. you'll see lots of Q rag.

Posted over 4 years ago

nick716

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I have to disagree with you iceit. A player like this is calling with all sorts of stuff on the flop and turn. Though it may be extremely thin, I think you can bet the river here for value. But there is nothing wrong with checking behind imo.

Posted over 4 years ago

iceit

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I have to disagree with you iceit. A player like this is calling with all sorts of stuff on the flop and turn. Though it may be extremely thin, I think you can bet the river here for value. But there is nothing wrong with checking behind imo.



He raised in MP. do you think that he has something less than QJs? I mean look at how he plays he folded 45s on the btn, so there is no way that he is raising a small to mid PP. on what range do you put him on here?

Posted over 4 years ago

fccman

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remember this guy is playing 66% of his hands over 132 hands which I think is a large enough sample to say he's really loose preflop and even his raising range being that he raises 27% of his hands. trust me he could have absolutely anything.

but to put an end to this hand at this point, he was holding A3s and missed his flush draw.

Posted over 4 years ago

Soepgroente

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Only worse hands that are calling are JT, T8 and 66-88 imo. And he might fold them sometimes. I think you own yourself too often here and a check behind is fine. If he calls with ace high putting you on a busto draw you can bet for value, but normally I check behind.

Posted over 4 years ago

nick716

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I actually misread the HH and thought OP was the opener. My bad. So now that I know how the hand actually went...I think I check behind on the turn and bet the river if checked to. But again I see know crim ein checking behind the river either.

Posted over 4 years ago

dohdohdoh

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I check the turn - it's the old 'folds worse, calls with better' saying. I also check the river.

Posted over 4 years ago

Captain_V.

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fold preflop? i don´t really like KTo (kts is a whole different story) although in pos. against a LAG player who maybe does some crazy moves postflop and puts you in tough decisions with TP with second or only aTen as a kicker etc. etc.

Posted over 4 years ago

nick716

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Captain_V makes a point that I'm surprised none of us have made. Fold K10os PF is definitely the play. Even suited I hesitate to call this type of player.

Posted over 4 years ago

fccman

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hmmn....

I think I'm calling this guy all day long with a super wide range on the button. I feel confident enough that I can get away from a marginal hand against him if need be but he is just far too loose IMO opinion to not play pots against him especially in position. I appreciate all the input though.

Posted over 4 years ago




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