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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by threads13 (Micro/Small Stakes)

Coffee 11pm Threads Vid - cool late night viewing.
Looking forward to this one.

oh my first frist.

Good video. Solidifies some of the parts of SPR i thought I new but maybe not so much
Looking forward to the next one!

nice video, is there some more info on SPR, and how it relates to commitment?

nice video, is there some more info on SPR, and how it relates to commitment?

Yes. I forgot to mention this in the video. The book "Professional No Limit Hold Em. Volume 1" by Mehta, Flynn, and Miller covers it in detail.

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Do you think raising just a little bigger, like $24 is slightly better than a min raise? I would think it induces the same mistakes as a minraise (call with weak hands, shove with bluffs) but might also make him more likely to call a turn shove, as the bet will be just under pot rather than a slight overbet. In my experience, players with these stats aren't thinking ahead at all, and they aren't thinking about SPR/commitment/FE either, so when you minraise, all they think about is "call $10/$14" or "I can't call...all in." Their not thinking "if I call this bet, SPR will be 1 : 1 and I'm going to make a mistake with my A9 on a safe card, I should just fold now." They probably aren't even thinking "This is x times my original raise," It's just "call $10/$14" and since his cards were good enough to donk $10, I can't imagine he'll find a fold for $14 and call $10 very often.

The difference between $20 and $24 isn't much when it comes to getting a flop call on it's own, but I feel psychologically, it makes future mistakes by villain more likely without much risk of forcing more "Good" folds.

Do you think raising just a little bigger, like $24 is slightly better than a min raise? I would think it induces the same mistakes as a minraise (call with weak hands, shove with bluffs) but might also make him more likely to call a turn shove, as the bet will be just under pot rather than a slight overbet. In my experience, players with these stats aren't thinking ahead at all, and they aren't thinking about SPR/commitment/FE either, so when you minraise, all they think about is "call $10/$14" or "I can't call...all in." Their not thinking "if I call this bet, SPR will be 1 : 1 and I'm going to make a mistake with my A9 on a safe card, I should just fold now." They probably aren't even thinking "This is x times my original raise," It's just "call $10/$14" and since his cards were good enough to donk $10, I can't imagine he'll find a fold for $14 and call $10 very often.

The difference between $20 and $24 isn't much when it comes to getting a flop call on it's own, but I feel psychologically, it makes future mistakes by villain more likely without much risk of forcing more "Good" folds.

All good points. I like where you're going with it.

To expand on it a little bit... I do think that there is some psychology in choosing the bet sizes here. Generally speaking, I think TAGs are way more likely to have thoughts like "ahhh... I can't fold to a min-raise! I call" and "wow... he overbet the pot! I fold." whereas with a loose/weak/unknown player I would expect it to be the exact opposite. I expect a weak player to not care as much as a TAG about an overbet to the pot(but still care some), but I also expect him to call a min-raise and a minraise + 3bb about as often. So, having said all that, I think against this particular player the idea of making it a bit larger as to set up a shove that is at or less than pot is totally a good idea. Like you said, he probably calls just as often on the flop, but might call the turn shove a little more. Also, even if he doesn't(the turn FE is exactly the same) then you do better by getting him to put more money into the pot before folding.

All good points. I like where you're going with it.

To expand on it a little bit... I do think that there is some psychology in choosing the bet sizes here. Generally speaking, I think TAGs are way more likely to have thoughts like "ahhh... I can't fold to a min-raise! I call" and "wow... he overbet the pot! I fold." whereas with a loose/weak/unknown player I would expect it to be the exact opposite. I expect a weak player to not care as much as a TAG about an overbet to the pot(but still care some), but I also expect him to call a min-raise and a minraise + 3bb about as often.

Yes-I agree. We can induce a call or even more likely, a bluff shove by minraising TAGS for value when we have bluffs in our range-this is often overlooked as an option by TAGs since minraising is only common from non-thinking players. We can also use the 2xpot bet as a profitable bluff vs the thinking player as long as our range can include strong value hands, since we wouldn't be making this move for value with 2nd pair very often. For instance, floating a cbet on the flop on a KJxr OOP, then 2xing a blank turn card with air when it is checked to us is going to get called by good TAGs with as little as Kx. our line is DEPOLARIZED to air, draws, and weak made hands. This bluff could work vs a non-thinking passive player, though (however I'm not one to try and get LP to fold top pair