A serious can we fold this flop question
12 posts, 12 voices
- okkkkko
- Deuce High
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41 posts
Joined 07/08
Villain was 8/6 over 200 hands or so. Is this AA evertime or does QQ show up often enough here to justify.
Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
Hero (BB): $209.00
UTG: $47.00
UTG+1: $264.00
UTG+2: $363.00
MP1: $505.70
MP2: $43.00
CO: $79.10
BTN: $197.00
SB: $212.75
Pre Flop: Hero is BB with K 
K 
4 folds, MP2 checks, CO raises to $10, BTN calls $10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $42, 2 folds, BTN calls $32
Flop: ($97.00) 7 8 
3 (2 players)
Hero bets $46, BTN raises to $155 all in, Hero calls $109
Turn: ($407.00) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)
River: ($407.00) T 
(2 players - 1 is all in)
- goldseraph
- Pair of Deuces
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129 posts
Joined 03/08
I think JJ/QQ/AKc could be possible here, often enough that you have to stack off and when it's AA it's too bad.
- dohdohdoh
- Quad Deuces
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1462 posts
Joined 12/07
Yes, insta-call because with such a huge flop raise it stinks of a draw.
- Stonewalled
- Deuce High
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61 posts
Joined 06/08
I would think AA is a smaller part of his overall range than QQ/JJ/AKc. I would have expected him to re-raise at some point pf.
- jl87
- Deuce High
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87 posts
Joined 07/08
This is a call imo. you're only losing to AA at this point seeing how tight he is.
Question : if hero had the Kc. Eliminating Akcc in his range. Is this still a call?
- glasgowjim
- Deuce High
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1 post
Joined 08/08
If you ran that scenario through Pokerstove, using the hand range, you would be a favourite to win...so shove.
- EvilSky
- Deuce High
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51 posts
Joined 01/08
lol, I cant believe you are considering a fold here ^^
- athanik
- Deuce High
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31 posts
Joined 04/08
Is the villain an IntelliPoker guy? 
Call
- tsclark
- Deuce High
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96 posts
Joined 02/07
Oh noz! He's got dem aces!
Call. Of the hands he'd do this with, you're ahead of some. Given the fact that only one hand I can see this guy having actually beats you and the fact that you've stuck in half your stack already, call and don't think twice.
- brtnboarder
- Deuce High
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3 posts
Joined 07/08
this isn't a UTG open this is a CO open, his shoving range is much wider here than just AA....Srsly this is a call esp if you have ever 3 bet this guy before.
- Drakken
- Pair of Deuces
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125 posts
Joined 09/08
IMHO, he either hit two pairs (unlikely if he is such a tight nit) or a set (more likely if he raises pairs from CO). The board is dry, containing only a possible straight or flush draw, but someone going so quick into All-in basically gives away that he or shit hit something that can beat your average two-pairs.
Perhaps I am not understanding something, why are pairs excluded from the villain's range? Even though he seems super-duper-tight, raising with 77 or 88 from CO is not exactly loose either.
okkkkko, have you ever seen this player raising from later position with middle pairs?