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Hi everyone,
So I am having a good session so far and have $975 in front of me. Villain arrived not too long ago to the table and has bought in for $300 and sits 2 to my left.

I get dealt AA on the btn and face 5 limpers. I make it $20, SB folds and Villain in the BB calls.

Flop ($50) : K74
villain checks, I bet $35, he calls.

Turn ($120) : K
villain checks, I bet $70, he calls.

River ($260) : J
villain leads $90

So I don't think I beat much at this point and my main question is not as much wether to call or fold but would welcome thoughts on that as well. I am asking myself however what is most optimal on the turn? double barreling like i did here or checking behind on the turn?

What I am thinking is that when I double barrel ip given my preflop action, villain's bluffing frequency will be reduced and I will be mostly facing the top of his value range. Taking this approach makes it easier to play the hand as opposed to checking back and try to decipher a large bet on the river. Of course he will not always bet the river after I check the turn behind but I'd think that it would induce more bluffs than double barreling. Seems like I get more value from hands i beat by inducing bluffs, but at the same time how big is his bluff range on such a dry board?

When I double barrel I think he only gets to the river with 44/77/JJ/QQ/AK/KQ/KJ?. I would also think he probably c/c river with KQ/KJ in case I have AK and I think 44/77 raises at some point before the river, usually the turn.

When I check behind the turn, he stays in with 88-QQ and KQ/KJ btu not sure what he does with these hands or how he plays them vs my line so far.


This is what I got off the top of my head, all comments are welcome. Thanks

Are you really posting this while your still playing? I think your focus should be 100% on the game.

Can you provide more detail on your villian? He's played at least one orbit if he sat down not long ago and is now in the BB, so has he folded every hand to this point? Has he limped in a few times? Splashed around? What's your gut telling you his playing style is? TP, LP, FPS (tricky)

The turn your in a spot where your either way ahead or way behind and there isn't too many river cards that change that, so it looks like a good spot to check. I think you only really want one more street of value and you could induce him to bluff the river by checking back the turn. If he checks the river you can try to bet to get him to call with his holdings like 88/99/TT I'd fire $60-70 on river if he checks.

Against the average live player (I'm assuming you are readless since you didn't post any reads), check back the turn. His flop calling range is Kx, sets, and some QQ/JJ/TT type hands. QQ/JJ folds to your turn bet, and you valuetown yourself vs. the Kx and sets.

Also I don't know what hands in his range you are referring to when you talk about inducing bluffs on the river since there's no draws on this board. So unless you have a read that he is capable of turning showdown value into bluffs, I wouldn't assume that he's bluffing the river if you check back the turn. With no reads, it's very unlikely he's betting the river large with TT to rep having Kx to try to make you fold AA or QQ.

So yeah, basically check back the turn and fold the river. As played, the river is a super shitty spot. On the one hand, you only have to be good like 16% of the time. On the other hand, this line, especially on dry boards is a nutted hand the majority of the time. The only way you are good on the river is if he is doing some sort of "oh shit I don't know what to do, so I will bluff with TT/99" type of fishy spazz play. Given that he will fold those hands on the turn a lot, and that even if he doesn't fold turn, it is highly unlikely he will bluff with them vs. such a strong line, I would fold the river.

Taking this approach makes it easier to play the hand as opposed to checking back and try to decipher a large bet on the river.

Don't make decisions based on ease, make decisions based on EV.