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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by slowlane123 (Micro/Small Stakes)

Perfect fit for me, the more micro-focused videos the better! Thanks!

btw the first four and a half minutes or so is repeated from ~5-9:30 and then it kind of glitches into the liveplay video. Still a great video but some glitches

Can I make a small point of ettiquette. First ask yourself who wants to watch a video about beating micro stakes. Perhaps someone who is not beating the micro stakes themselves. Someone who is in fact a micro stakes player. I realize that when you move down and are yourself a successful higher limits player, it all looks a little elementary, and I am sure it is. However, it is more than a little tilting to hear you go on about how retarded everyone is at this level and how easy it is to beat these stakes. If we were beating these stakes we would not by definition need to watch a video called "Escaping the Micro Stakes". If you were teaching a first year university class, would you spend your time telling them that everything they are learning was easy and how they would be dumb if they do not already understand this.
I also think this kind of thinking does not really help to teach anything. Most of your play was based on the argument that "since everyone at these stakes is bad ... then this is the right play". Besides being ad hominem it really does not inform to proper fundamental play, which from what I understand, is what I need to be doing to play at these levels successfully. Sorry for the minor rant, I am sure it will be a great series, especially when you get up to your more regular levels. Just remember that teaching is about bringing people up to your level of understanding. Not ridiculing people who have not yet brought themselves up to yours. Good luck.

btw the first four and a half minutes or so is repeated from ~5-9:30 and then it kind of glitches into the liveplay video. Still a great video but some glitches

We are aware of the glitch at the beginning of the video, unfortunately our video editor Rusty is out of town for the weekend, so he will put up a fixed version early next week. I decided to leave this version up for now as the rest of the video appears fine and the content is good. Thanks for the heads up!

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You should stop telling us how bad the players are at 25NL and how they're extremly crushable. It doesn't make the players who are watching this video because they are stuck at these stakes feel any better about their game. It's just arrogant. Nice video though.

Unfortunately got to agree with Ulyss - most of your decisions seems to be based on the fact you are way better than these players. How does that help us?

Also, I'm at a bit of a loss to understand why DC has commissioned a video series on how to escape the microstakes from someone who halfway through the video says he began his poker career at 100nl.

I'll keep with it though.

I agree with a lot of the comments here and I apologise for being condescending in my comments about the play at 25nl. That being said, I'm not here to make you feel good about your game. I'm here to show you why these stakes are easily beat and how to do it.

I'm at a bit of a loss to understand why DC has commissioned a video series on how to escape the microstakes from someone who halfway through the video says he began his poker career at 100nl.

I've probably spent more hours coaching micro-stakes FR than many of those those who are watching will have spent playing them. Would you really want to watch a vid by someone whose played 100s of thousands of hands at 25nl? Why would you want to watch a vid made by someone who hasn't been able to move out of the smallest limits possible?

Unfortunately got to agree with Ulyss - most of your decisions seems to be based on the fact you are way better than these players. How does that help us?

Because I'm explaining the reasoning behind every decision I make and what makes me better than these players (stealing in good spots, spotting timing/sizing tells, thinking ahead etc etc). By slowly adding these elements to your own game, hopefully you too will become a far better player than these guys and move onwards and upwards.

If you were teaching a first year university class, would you spend your time telling them that everything they are learning was easy and how they would be dumb if they do not already understand this.

I'm sorry but this metaphor doesn't apply at all. I never suggested poker theorem is easily learnt or applied. Nor did I announce that anyone that didn't know what I was teaching was stupid. I was simply suggesting that the surroundings in which you have to apply your knowledge is a very comfortable setting (25nl is extremely fishy). If it were a university class, it would be kind of like doing an exam in the comfort of your bedroom with a few of your study notes lying around (meaning you have a few things to help you along the way, like random donkeys shoving buyins w/ no equity).

I think anyone that studies/reviews/discusses poker correctly can and will crush these limits. Those who are stuck at 25nl isn't because they don't have the ability to beat it. It's because they're misapplying the knowledge that they have or are not studying enough. I will make sure to be more understanding in my comments and hopefully this series will help motivate people to raise the bar instead of feeling downtrodden! :-)

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.Which is it? Is he a clueless shortstacker or he is really thinking about his fold equity after he donk bets the flop and you reraise fairly small.

Just because he is clueless doesn't mean he can't be thinking that I might fold if he shoves his last few dollars with a 5 there...

There is some relevance to what you are saying, yet as an inconsistent player myself at Stars for my first 10 months of learning this game, and having my HUD up for much of that time, I was able to accumulate a lot of stats on players at the 10 to 25cent levels ... and really, for the most part, most ARE fish, stations or nits of varying types.
In fact, if HUD stats (which are only averages that inadequately informs hand ranges, etc.) are to be believed at all, I only found about 20 players in hundreds that I marked as good or decent. So if we are to beat the micros, we really need to accept that most players on most sites esp. at the micros are nits, stns or fish.
The challenge for us then is to learn at their expense as our own game evolves, trustfully upward.

But i hasten to add that for someone who has earned only about $10k on FT on a sample size of 30k hands over the course of 3 years (check out PTR anyone) needs to inject some humility into any vids made.
If your earnings were hovering around the $200K to $1M levels as are many pros at mid-high stake games, I would place much more relevance on what you have to say...!!!

I've probably spent more hours coaching micro-stakes FR than many of those those who are watching will have spent playing them. Would you really want to watch a vid by someone whose played 100s of thousands of hands at 25nl? Why would you want to watch a vid made by someone who hasn't been able to move out of the smallest limits possible?

This is not what I meant. Of course I don't want to watch a video by someone who can't beat the microstakes.

But I would like to watch one by someone who has. That being said, the fact that you have coached many 25nl players, and say so at the start of the vid, obviously makes my point fairly redundant,

I rewatched the vid and you do explain yourself. I must have just been on one yesterday.

Just because he is clueless doesn't mean he can't be thinking that I might fold if he shoves his last few dollars with a 5 there...

Hi, thanks for replying. Forgive me for questioning further, and I may be wrong, which won't be the first time today; But this spot really interests me as I find myself in similar situations on occaision.

Why not just call here? it appears to me that you don't really want him to fold and you're calling a shove regardless of the cards to come. I would think a call would be more likely to induce him to continue firing more so than a minimum'ish raise would. To me, the min raise looks like you're trying to induce him to shove over with worse and if he is thinking at all, he might just slam on the breaks and not pay off entirely.

That said, I don't think he's folding regardless here because, as you said, he's probably clueless. I just don't think he's really considering his fold equity at all. It's 25nl, he hit his flop, and he's getting it in regardless, all the flop donking drama is just entertainment.

Thanks for video.

But i hasten to add that for someone who has earned only about $10k on FT on a sample size of 30k hands over the course of 3 years (check out PTR anyone) needs to inject some humility into any vids made.
If your earnings were hovering around the $200K to $1M levels as are many pros at mid-high stake games, I would place much more relevance on what you have to say...!!!

I'm not sure if you are trolling but you do realize FTP blocks PTR from tracking all results and that the majority of slowlane's hands are from Rush Poker, which is untracked right?