sprowls
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http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/11241-Episode-Two?seek=2738
First of all just wanted to say that I'm really loving this video series. In my play at 2/5NL I've had all of these spots come up and definitely agree with your analysis. On this particular hand you were trying to pinpoint his possible diamond holdings, and I agree with Jd and Td aren't really in his range, but what do you think about pocket nines with 9d. It does seem like a pretty plausible hand that he could have 3 bet preflop to try and take down the dead money. The flop check makes sense, since he probably doesn't want to get check raised there, instead hoping to spike a 9 on the turn, or possible fire the turn if checked around to again. However when the 3rd diamond rolls off, his hand gained some possible showdown value so again I think he could check that on the turn. The only question would be if hes capable of making the value bet on the river, but I think he can be pretty confident no one is checking the nuts to him, so he is really only losing to the Td, which most people would probably fire with as well.
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LOL METH DEALER???
seriously I am going to go ahead and nominate this as the most "interesting" table line up so far.
Great job so far Bart. I am enjoy this unique series even though I have limited live experience. No casinos in my state
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neomorf
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good videos thanks. in the AKs hand I really loved to watch how you would kill the 8d8x guy if the calls 
and i need some information. im coming to vegas in a week. do you have any information about 10-20? where can i play? how strong it is? i played at commerce 10/20 so if u can compare these two i would understand
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Chimeni
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Brilliant analysis and explanations Bart. DC members, if you want more of this you must watch LATB with Bart in booth. BTW, are any of these hands from LATB (just wondering if the "names" apply to any players I see.
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pr0wler
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On the last hand, I think a call is correct but I wanted to add a few points to the discussion.
- I don't think AJ with Jd is out of his range at all. If he squeezed AJ preflop in position, then why does he necessarily bet it on an AQJ flop? If we just said that we're willing to check/fold AK on that board, then what exactly is he getting value from with top and bottom? I know he isn't thinking exactly like that, but the fact that someone is willing to fold TPTK + gutshot to 1 bet illustrates the 'scariness' of a particular flop and I feel like he will pot control AJ here some portion of the time.
- IMO, his river bet is very polarizing. As mentioned earlier by Bart, this type of 2/3ish pot bet (let alone in a 3-bet pot) is very scary and usually indicative of a very strong hand, or a bluff. When he bets that much, I think we can discount a lot of 9d type hands because he himself is worried about J/Td and in his eyes is prolly only getting value from 8d and worse. Based on Bart's description, this guy probably isn't even good enough to merge his value range and make this sizing with 9d/8d etc. When live players show up with 3rd nut diamond type hands, I find they tend to bet smaller here in order to pot control/extract value from marginal hands.
Since we can discount the Td based on the analysis in the video, and 9d and below because of preflop action/bet sizing, he pretty much has the few combos of Jd or crap. I think the combos of random crap he is bluffing with here outweigh the Jd combos by a longshot so a call is definitely +EV....wp.
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I like your analysis for the AK hand but I think you should consider turning your bluffcatcher into a bluff.
If we assume that all that you say is true - and that neither opponent has Jx of D or very rarely.
And you believe from previous showdowns that he is not betting many low diamonds.
And you dont have strongish reads on how stationary the Asian recreational player is...
I kinda like the idea of check/raising maybe check shipping the river rather than just calling.
Reasoning being - given its rare that either player has nut 2nd holding.
then russians range is one pairs turning into a bluff/ thin value bets
Asian recreational bluff-catchers/give up hands/ very rare superslowplay
then the only difference between c/c and c/r is that sometimes we are being thin value bet when we thought it unlikely and overcalled by asian bluffcatcher diamonds - and we likely can get those to fold also by c/r.
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http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/11241-Episode-Two?seek=2738
First of all just wanted to say that I'm really loving this video series. In my play at 2/5NL I've had all of these spots come up and definitely agree with your analysis. On this particular hand you were trying to pinpoint his possible diamond holdings, and I agree with Jd and Td aren't really in his range, but what do you think about pocket nines with 9d. It does seem like a pretty plausible hand that he could have 3 bet preflop to try and take down the dead money. The flop check makes sense, since he probably doesn't want to get check raised there, instead hoping to spike a 9 on the turn, or possible fire the turn if checked around to again. However when the 3rd diamond rolls off, his hand gained some possible showdown value so again I think he could check that on the turn. The only question would be if hes capable of making the value bet on the river, but I think he can be pretty confident no one is checking the nuts to him, so he is really only losing to the Td, which most people would probably fire with as well.
What I failed to say in the video after watching that hand again, is that he QUICKLY bet $500, as if he gave it no thought. That's why I decided to dismiss those types of thin value bets with the 9 or 8d.
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livebikebart
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good videos thanks. in the AKs hand I really loved to watch how you would kill the 8d8x guy if the calls 
and i need some information. im coming to vegas in a week. do you have any information about 10-20? where can i play? how strong it is? i played at commerce 10/20 so if u can compare these two i would understand
My suggestion would be to stay at Commerce. The 10-20 is the absolute best when most of the pros are at the WSOP.
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livebikebart
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Brilliant analysis and explanations Bart. DC members, if you want more of this you must watch LATB with Bart in booth. BTW, are any of these hands from LATB (just wondering if the "names" apply to any players I see.
No,
But episode 4 is planned to be a live action video of hands taken from the night I won big on LATB.
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livebikebart
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Thank you for this wonderful video, Please explain why you name the guy FartHead ?
Ok a more serious question, what do you think it is the appropriate bankroll for somebody winning 100NL 6max at 5bb/100 over half million hands to play 5/10 live ?
That's really hard to say. I played 2000 hours of 5-10 and never went on more than a 7k downswing...that is until my most recent 150 hours where I lost 18k straight. I think you can definitely take a shot with 10K and chances are that if you are good you'll run it up to 25 before you run it down to 0.
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