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So.
Following situation: hero is the chipleader of the tournament with 11 players left. Standard SB preflop raise with AQs. BB shoves for a hole bunch more.
About the player in the BB. He was inconspicuous, didn't have any big bluffs, big calls or big pots. A reasonable player, I think.

I think, it was inbetween an ok-call and a good call. Hero thought, it was ok, too. Another friend said, it was an easy muck for him because risking half of your stack for a coinflip is absolutely unnecessary. But what are the alternatives. Raise and fold to a BB push? Limpcall? Raise and call a 3bet?
What would hero possibly have done, if BB 3bet? Hero said, he would have pushed. Pretty standard, I THINK.

But on the other hand, i think it's a really tough spot because of the stacksizes. If Hero calls a push and lose he will be one of the shortstacks with (more or less heatlhy) 25bb. If he wins, he would have 300k and a commanding chiplead with 10 players left.
Obviously its easier to win a tournament, when you have the chiplead at the final table. And with 25bb at a final table in an online tournament you have still the chances to win it. So because of that it's for me a call.
But is this a question of the different styles of tournament play?
I mean, the arguments of my friend saying it's an easy muck are reasonable, too, because you can have better spots with a big stack, when you have to call off half of your stack, right?

What would you have done?



Poker Stars $30+$3 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1500/t3000 Blinds - 5 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

UTG: t30118
CO: t156865
BTN: t176161
Hero (SB): t182818
BB: t99323

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with A Q
3 folds, Hero raises to t12000, BB raises to t99023 all in, Hero calls t87023

Flop: (t199546) 5 5 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t199546) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t199546) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t199546
Hero shows Ah Qh (a pair of Fives)
BB shows 6s 6d (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
BB wins t199546

Just my 2 cents....

If villain has been as tight/nitty as you say, then your probably flipping for a major portion of your equity. (That can't be good this deep, imo)

If you have been raping his BB relentlessly, then this "could" be him making a stand.

I might even consider just limping here, see if villain takes his option. (This might be a bad idea) Dry flop, c/f.

You also have a 10BB shorty UTG whos probably not going to last much longer.

I guess bottom line for me is preserving my stack in this particular spot.

Now let the people with WAY more knowledge then me tell you what they would do

GL

Yeah and exactly that's why this situation is such a tough tough spot!
So Hero busted at 9. holding KK against AQ. He had been greensteined.
Against the man we lost half our stack with AQ vs. 66.... ironic.

The worst case happened here:
- We were chipleader of the tournament with 11 players left
- We lost half our stack while flipping
- We got a beat and busted at the final table

But if Hero would have folded the AQ earlier (my friend's view) where he was flipping, he would have been having enough chips to survive the beat.
And I think this particular point is the tough spot in this situation. We were 50/50 when we lost our half stack and 75/25 when we got busted.
These circumstances makes this such a tough spot regardless of the possible ranges we crush.

The bottom line is it kinda seems that we underestimate the question if it is neccesary to risk half our stack as a chipleader in a coinflip coming this deep in a tourney (11 left).
Even if we fold we are still most likely going to be chipleader at the final table and have a huge chance to win.

Any thoughts?

What are the payouts/what tournament is it? Most mtt's are relatively top heavy, and unless he's specifically playing pretty nitty and has given up his blind plenty of times before to LP and SB opens, you probably maintain at least ~60% equity vs someones reshoving range after you open in the SB if you've been at all active. that combined with the ~30k+ in the pot, and I'd very likely be looking him up with AQs here for just a 25+ish BB effective stacks (with antes factored in).