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I call in BB. Don't have much information on Villain, but I want to see a flop.

I think you need a better plan of the future than this, without much info my plan would be to fold pre but remember the strange raise size and look for any showdowns villain has. Try to formulate a model for use in some future hands.
As played I would open jam the flop, you have a lot of equity, not very much FE but some, and you have to get some luck to have a chance of going deep, might as well chance it here - don't try to check raise as then you have zero FE.

Guys, your shoving to try and fold out 10's and 9's here right? you do realize that? i dont think a fish folds thous.

Guys, your shoving to try and fold out 10's and 9's here right? you do realize that? i dont think a fish folds thous.

I think you are right in that check calling is probably a little better on this flop if the Villain will oblige , we don't actually want to realise our FE on this flop. We don't know much about the range we might get to fold out a few low pairs, perhaps 44 to 66, but we also take out more that we are ahead of.
It is still possible the V. was bluffing with a weak hand I would want to get it in on the flop so the push still seems ok to me - we do gain a bit of safety for the loss of optimal chips and if the heart hits on a checked back turn we may lose the customer anyway.
It seems pretty close either way, push or c/r attempt, to me.

As played i also wouldn't get too tricky postflop and just openjam the flop. We don#t need to balance or play the hand as if we might have a king, as the utg3-guy is mostly not going to notice much about our line. Being oop checkcall is going to leave you in horrible turn or riverspots, if you miss and even if you get there its not going to be easy to get stacks in if oppo decides to checkback flop or turn. Also i think shoving doesn't make him fold his pps, but its obv. not the worst result here to get it vs. anything below jacks.

I'm still shoving pre though, esp. in this phase of the MTT. I dont think its a massive assumption to give the oppo a 7-10% Range here, its not like a 2$ rebuy is nitville and 30bb is not exactly a massive stack.

Yep I am shoving this flop. Prob would shove pre flop too if I think he is just trying to run the table over with his stack, and betting like this with a wide range pre. Its a pretty stupid open size with a premium hand.

This is a very interesting point--and I thought about it in my decision to call pre-flop. The open size was exceptionally large and stupid; and occasionally that size screams, "Don't call me." It can also mean, "I have a really big premium hand." So I was kind of stuck. If I had to do it again, I'd probably fold it, but the size of the bet was really bothering me pre-flop.

This is a very interesting point--and I thought about it in my decision to call pre-flop. The open size was exceptionally large and stupid; and occasionally that size screams, "Don't call me." It can also mean, "I have a really big premium hand." So I was kind of stuck. If I had to do it again, I'd probably fold it, but the size of the bet was really bothering me pre-flop.

it should, but do you really not value your ability to outplay people with 30 BB that much that we are just going to take a very high variance line just to try and guess. We have no reads, and frankly no idea what his play means.

As played i also wouldn't get too tricky postflop and just openjam the flop. We don#t need to balance or play the hand as if we might have a king, as the utg3-guy is mostly not going to notice much about our line. Being oop checkcall is going to leave you in horrible turn or riverspots, if you miss and even if you get there its not going to be easy to get stacks in if oppo decides to checkback flop or turn. Also i think shoving doesn't make him fold his pps, but its obv. not the worst result here to get it vs. anything below jacks.

" I wouldnt get tricky" what the hell kind of logic is that man, your just using an axiom to base your play and that's it

why are you so terrified about making decisions on a turn or river? And you even said he doesn't fold his PPs, just so you know, we are flipping with them! Do we like flipping with 30BB when we have no motivation to do so? Against a person who seems to be a massive fish and could one way or the other be defining his hand ranges pre so clearly for us?

Seriously getting tired of some the shit i hear in this forum sometimes. Saying " not the worst spot to get it in here" and "he doesn't fold PP's" is logic against shoving like its so funny your own argument disproves your suggestion!!!!!!!

I'm still shoving pre though, esp. in this phase of the MTT. I dont think its a massive assumption to give the oppo a 7-10% Range here, its not like a 2$ rebuy is nitville and 30bb is not exactly a massive stack.

It would be better if it was in fact nit ville bc they actually will open hands and then fold to the top of their range if you shove. They would be thinking about ranges. The fact it is not nittville makes shoving bad because a lot of his open calling range ( which some should fold but it will not *see your above) means we are slightly -ev!!!

And 30BB is plenty of a stack to steal, 3 bet shove, even 3 bet resteal assuming sizing and postions and conditions work out! Im sorry for being a massive prick but this is tilting the shit out of me right now!!!