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arjunt1

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I'm posting this HH so my future self can look back and see how terrible I used to be. Overall I think I take some really marginal lines on these select hands, and I definitely get it in bad at least once.

$100 deepish stack tourney live 10k starting chips, structure is 30 min levels, after level 7 it becomes a turbo and doubles each level.

Blinds 200/400 no ante

Hand 1:
UTG+1 11k (very loose player, I put his range on pretty much anything down to even 75o) raises to 1500
MP 14k (seems solid, aggressive) Calls
MP+1 (super retard fish, will stack off with TP no kicker multiple times) 9k calls
Hero (button) 8k with 99 jams
fold,fold, MP+1 calls with AQo
Q on river, rebuy!

Hand 2:
Blinds are 200/400 no ante, Last hand before the break (last chance to rebuy if I bust)
Folds to button who raises to 1500
Hero 8k 8c3c
Button 10k
I float, flop comes two clubs, I jam
Button calls shows AdAc
I get there on the river and double....often on the last hand before break I see people jamming/raising with trash just to play on people's fear of busting or worse.. getting short stacked going into the no-rebuy period, so I decide to float. I never put him on a made hand here, and I'm ok with how I played this.

Hand 3:
Hero in BB stack 24k
blinds 500/1000 200 ante
pot is 3500
Folds to Button (semi-good reg), shoves 8k
My hand K7d
I tank for a long time, this guy has been shoving his short stack after I busted his AA 100% of the time when it folds to him on the button, I know its a pretty terrible call but with 24k the 7k to win 11500 is giving me 1.6 odds so I eventually call.
Button shows QJo, flops a straight
In retrospect, I think this was a very marginal call. I'm sort of at the point though with an M of ~7 and other people with over 50k at the table where I need to make some marginal calls, this was not a good one though. No reason to risk 1/3 of my stack on a flip, his 100% open shove when it folds to him greatly factored into my call, would love some comments on this one. He has already chipped up from 2k to 8k just on shoving and not getting called, and my thinking was that if I fold he's going to have ~12k and a lot more FE.

Hand 4:
stack 13k
77 UTG+1 blinds 500/1000 200 ante
Raise to 2500
folds to the BB with 60k, super tight old guy calls
Flop 8 10 10
BB bets 5k
pot is 8500
Fold
UTG+1 I really don't like to jam 77's pre with a monster stack in the BB, but I'm also not folding them, would like some feedback on this. I'm ok as with how I played I think, it's always hard to play middle pairs with big stacks in the blinds and an M of less than 10. You have enough chips to get away from the hand but you feel like you need to take a stab at the juicy 3500 in the middle.

Hand 5:
Stack 12k
blinds 500/1000 200 ante
MP+1 (super tight) 35k chips limps
SB 12k completes
Hero K6o check
Flop KQ6 rainbow
SB bets 4k
Hero shoves
MP+1 folds
SB calls shows K6o also
I know these two players and this definitely should have been a jam pre. I'm not worried about pushing MP+1 out of the hand either as he has only played 3 hands all tourney, AA, KK, and KK. He is calling with a small pair here and set mining for sure and won't call any action without a set min.

Hand 6:
Blinds have just gone to 1000/2000 300 ante
relative stacks at the table,
SB 7k
BB 44k
UTG 26k
UTG+1 17k
MP 42k
MP+1 65k
MP+2 18k
HJ 14k
CO (Hero) 11k
Button 9.1k

6k in the pot

folds to me in the CO with A4o
I shove
button calls with AKo '
2 3 6 on the flop (just to tease me)
AK holds
I don’t see any other way to play this spot, I’m one of the short stacks and the pot is 50% of my chips already, BB is super tight and is not calling without QQ+, SB only has 7k so his calling range is super narrow as well.

And finally with 1900 chips and 3 limpers (12k in the pot) I shove 9s7s. One of those spots where you really don't even need to look at your cards of course.

Posted 10 months ago

rrumsey

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hand 1 is a standard shove in rebuy period

hand 2- why we calling OOP here? whats our stack?

hand 3- you say he is a reggy player he should be shoving ATC here, snap call here with K7 imo, if he isnt shoving as wide as he "should" adjust your range accordingly

hand 4- its an unexploitable shove so unless you think you can induce you need to be pushing. Getting peeled is shitty for us a lot the time we see overs, he bets, we are stuck in a guessing game. Shoving is always +ev here so take it unless you know you can induce ( and being UTG+1 unless there is a psycho at your table its unlikely you can induce, if it was say in CO or button with an aggro dynamic and good stack sizes it could be an option)

hand 5- i dont mind checking at all here, idk why your hell bent to shove into a variant situation, your getting a free (if you want to look at the blinds as free) look to realize some equity take it imo. there are many hands you could be pushing here, a rag K isnt one of them. If you have reads it can be profitable to shove a lot of hands here, if you had hands that played better against their limp call range its a good shove spot. depends on reads and how much we want to value our ability to make good decisions


also the more i think about it im leaning to you can still shove here, but i think its a hand that isnt good enough against their limp call ranges likely, but can flop well. If we say had 56s i would prefer to shove bc we rarely realize enough equity OTF to get it in. Relying on FE and or giving us 5 streets to realize our marginal equity seems better in that case. Its almost a case you have too strong a hand to bluff with, but can't make a value raise preflop. Punishing limpers is nice, but i don't think this isthe best spot for it. It could be very thin +ev to shove but again back to my opening statement its really variant even for me

hand 6- its a clear cooler and you know it 100%, nothing else to be said gg and dont focus much on the runout the equity pre is the equity pre. People get so bored by being "teased" but you need to detach yourself from the outcome and just focus on the EV of the shove and know it was correct. Thats all you can control

Posted 10 months ago

arjunt1

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hand 2- my stack is 8k, I'm BB for 400 so I flatted the 1100 into a 2500 pot on his raise. I planned to shove with any equity on the flop since it was the last hand before the rebuy, I would say I normally just fold here 80%, and just call 20%, is that about right?
hand 4- thank you for the comments, what range are you open shoving UTG with 13BB? 66+, A10o+, KQo, maybe a QJs? I think I generally play too tight when I'm under 15BB, which in these tournaments is a LOT of the time based on the structure.

hand 5- I did have a specific read, MP+1 i've played about 100+ hours with, and the SB i've played at least 30+ tourney's against. MP+1 is a 2-4 limit player who will fold AK pre to any raise, and will not call a raise pre without QQ+, ever. So I felt like a shove is just pure EV since he only raises 1010+ pre (he won't even raise AK), and his limp polarizes his range to AK, some high suited connectors, and small pocket pairs only. SB will also only complete with trash in general but nevertheless thanks I appreciate the feedback on this one. I was ok with the check pre, but I thought it was a spot where I could have shoved just based on my experience with these two.
hand 6- I know its just cold, I wanted to include all the runouts just to give the overall picture to see if i'm doing anything wrong overall.

thanks again, I really appreciate your feedback!

Posted 10 months ago

rrumsey

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yah in hand 2, for 20BB i would just fold assuming we get a decent amount of chips for the addon. for 20BB its probably better to shove then to actually flat. We want him folding hands. He may have a wider range for shoving the flop bc our line looks drawly/ semibluff a lot of times on flops, and he may fold hands with a shit ton of equity against us pre but he can realize some of that OTF and then we start shoving into made pairs a decent % the time. I would assume you were tilted some when this hand happened.


hand 5- if you know their hands are very defined to be weak given their action ok shovings is fine, but be aware given how aggressive you seem if someone knows you they may be trapping you here

hand 6- why does the runout matter? your decision is a preflop one. weird runouts/ suckouts/ "cruel runouts" happen dont forget we are doing things bc on average over enough of a sample it is +ev. It may seem weird im making a point of hammering this so much but its important to always look at things in terms of EV and fight the feeling of getting hung up on the wrong things. Its not that it doesn't blow, because it does, but being bothered by it shows a disconnect between ev thinking and a gambling mentality

Posted 10 months ago

arjunt1

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hah. Yeah good read on hand 2, I was already tilted a bit from losing the 99 flip.

hand 5: yes that's a good point, although the general skill level of the players is such that I don't expect them to adjust correctly to repeated shoves.

hand 6: thanks, I do need to work on being less results orientated, I need that hammered in Smile

Posted 10 months ago

rrumsey

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i wouldnt do it if i didnt think you would listen, and i know you have a good idea of what your trying to accomplish just have to work to stay in the correct mindset. Watching some tommy angelo or something ( i like to watch ansky to get in the zone or jae) can help to just reinforce that mindset. Just make sure playing live you take your time and think about things in your head, it is slow enough anyways lol

Posted 10 months ago

pokergarden

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aggrosquid

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rumsey sums most of it up IMO. I think some of your plays in general seem spewy and -cEV.
Hand 1 is so standard.
hand 2 and hand 3 I really don't like. I'm unsure if your assessment of him shoving ATC is true but hey thats my logic.

hand 4. Just Jam.

hand 5 seems fine
hand 6 is standard also, just ul but you've no choice imo

Posted 10 months ago




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