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micsquab

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GET IT THROUGH? My image was very tight. 1 to the money. Table was hand for hand and tight as well.

Posted 11 months ago

BaseMetal

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Could do with some info on the other stacks and what size of tourney.
If in 180's where the first bubble is at 18 players it is good to try to go deep and at this point you will have lots of added fold equity. With the right situation I would push - I would sometimes min-raise and fold to large stacks if these were straightforward players, but if tricky or aggro types with stacks were in position I would lean more to the push. It will depend on a few things but I definitley wouldn't usually push with any worst Ax maybe still raise A9o or so.

Posted 11 months ago

micsquab

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BB was the chip leader who snap called with 66. Was thinking I made a miss step here but also think BB should be folding too. I don't think BB has enough equity vs. my range here. Felt like I had the right table dynamic image and card strength to make this work. It was one of those 40 man 500 GTD late night on Carbon Poker 11 dollar buy in. When I late registered there was only like 25 players left so I couldn't resist. BB had like 28k me 10k.

Posted 11 months ago

rrumsey

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I need to check a chart but I'm thinking it's the bottom of our range and a shove

Posted 11 months ago

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Most of the carbon tournies are pretty top heavy in the payouts, so that makes the shove better if thats the case. I totally expect carbon donkament players to call w/ 66 here, they call shoves way too wide, to me it seems like a bad call, interested in what you guys think, I would normally fold since it's almost half his chips, but maybe Im too tight in these spots in general...

Posted 11 months ago

snowboard789

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push is marginal call is more marginal

Posted 11 months ago

Noreaga

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I need to check a chart but I'm thinking it's the bottom of our range and a shove


Yep.Depends on players behind alot, if you have a big stack fish in the blinds that is extremly call happy and is gonna call you wide, then it`s better to fold on the bubble imo.You`ll still have 14bb`s when the blinds pass you and with that u also have a lot of fold equity for future spots.

Posted 11 months ago

BaseMetal

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I think I would usually simply fold ATo here I would be happier to min-raise but I would push if I felt the circumstances had alligned just about right (there would have to be a deep payout structure and a few quite small stacks present)
The big stack calling a tight UTG with 66 seems very bad, again it would depend on the structure but I think calling even with 99 is bad.

Posted 11 months ago

rrumsey

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i think min betting here has to be for the right reasons. Almost nothing of it has anything to do with our hand ( unless we actually think blinds are bad enough to flat) bc it becomes mostly as a steal and or inducing a spazz we think will be way out of line shoving. If we don't have those reasons, we are min betting here as a steal bc we aren;t calling a shove so it has to be a table we think we can steal a huge amount here

Posted 11 months ago

rrumsey

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im seeing this is the best hand we are folding on some charts

Posted 11 months ago

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There's just so much info missing here. Could you tell us number of players at the table, how steep the payout structure is and what the other stacks are.

Posted 11 months ago

micsquab

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There's just so much info missing here. Could you tell us number of players at the table, how steep the payout structure is and what the other stacks are.



8 handed,UTG 19938, UTG+1 HERO 10329, MP1 17913, MP2 19378, CO 7944, BTN 10006, SB 23017, BB 27184,

On the bubble (16 players left) I am 14th, 11 dollar buy in pay outs start at 16 dollars first is 270 dollars. Also 100 dollar antes. Also made a mistake here with the blinds they are 500/1000/ 100 antes. So 10 BB. Sorry Carbon hands are hard to put on here you have to type them out.

BOARD 63355. Frown

Posted 11 months ago

snowboard789

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10 VERY # to 15 BB cmon man!

10BB is a shove for sure

Posted 11 months ago

micsquab

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10 VERY # to 15 BB cmon man!

10BB is a shove for sure



Thanx. Is BB right for calling?

Posted 11 months ago

rrumsey

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yah 10 is a shove, but actually it really isnt a push till about 11BB tbh

Posted 11 months ago




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