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JSTOCK

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Half way through the money. Top heavy payout of 20k to first. No info on villain. Thoughts?

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t700/t1400 Blinds + t175 - 9 players - View hand 1777977
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MP1: t16868 M = 4.59
MP2: t59054 M = 16.07
CO: t10946 M = 2.98
Hero (BTN): t139981 M = 38.09
SB: t58188 M = 15.83
BB: t29284 M = 7.97
UTG: t112017 M = 30.48
UTG+1: t30460 M = 8.29
UTG+2: t76150 M = 20.72

Pre Flop: (t3675) Hero is BTN with Q Spade J Club
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t2900, 4 folds, Hero calls t2900, 2 folds

Flop: (t9475) Q Diamond 5 Club 6 Heart (2 players)
UTG+1 bets t3000, Hero raises to t6500, UTG+1 raises to t27385 all in

Final Pot: t22475
UTG+1 wins t22475

Posted 12 months ago

d_jsr

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I'm folding pre all day.

Raising flop doesn't achieve much, he'll continue with better & fold worse

Posted 12 months ago

conxtion8899

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Joined 06/2010

Good fold. Also, good raise to test villain's range.

Posted 12 months ago

BaseMetal

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I am not too sure about the fold on the flop due to the stack sizes and your percieved play as table leader. To break chip even you need ~32% equity so anything around 40 should be a call. With a pretty tight range from utg+1 the obvious hands that bet out are:
(QQ+,66,AQs,KQs,QTs+,AQo,KQo,QJo). There is no extra slack in these just the hands that beat you except for only the QJ and QTs, you have only 22% against these but if you add a couple of hands that might go for it thinking you are bullying like AKs,AKo, JJ you get to 41% and this would make it a call.
I think you are likely behind but have just about enough equity to make the call. It is close though and in game I can easily see me fold in this position

If playing QJo against an early smallish stack I would be expecting to be allowed to steal often in position when checked to otherwise I would just fold. When you hit and the V. donks small I think re-raising is good but with the intention of not folding and I think I would have make it slghtly more, to about 8000.

Posted 12 months ago

euEra

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Good fold. Also, good raise to test villain's range.


This is terrible advice.

Why are you raising the flop? What worse hand will call?

Posted 12 months ago

FaceMyAlterEgo

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Joined 07/2010

fold pre vs a utg raise at these stakes, flat flop, as played, call reshove (see base metal analysis - it is pretty bad to raise with so much equity and then fold 30 bb deep).

Posted 12 months ago

rrumsey

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flatting pre isnt that bad imo if we have a good idea of what villain does postflop. Just know you can semibluff or float then steal ott. Like if villain is the type to cbet then give up flatting is awesome. no reads it may be +ev still to call but never really a big mistake to fold pre.
Just think about what is the bigger exploit:
* Folding pre with decent equity against his range
* Folding otf with a ton of equity against his range
* raise folding 30 BB on a dry board with a lot of equity vs his range when he leads the flop

clearly you did not pick the best option. You see why?

Posted 12 months ago

JSTOCK

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Appreciate the feedback fellas!

Without information on the utg raiser, it seems like I should be folding pre more often than flatting in this spot. As played, the min-raise allowed V to play his hand perfectly and, as Base noted, I probably committed myself to the pot. Despite how badly I played the hand, I believe the fold was correct.

Posted 12 months ago

rrumsey

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the flat was not the point of the hand i would beat yourself up on man. At worse its a small leak, at best its kinda profitable. the postflop play here is what is going to lose you a lot of chips

Posted 12 months ago




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