JSTOCK
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BaseMetal
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I am not too sure about the fold on the flop due to the stack sizes and your percieved play as table leader. To break chip even you need ~32% equity so anything around 40 should be a call. With a pretty tight range from utg+1 the obvious hands that bet out are:
(QQ+,66,AQs,KQs,QTs+,AQo,KQo,QJo). There is no extra slack in these just the hands that beat you except for only the QJ and QTs, you have only 22% against these but if you add a couple of hands that might go for it thinking you are bullying like AKs,AKo, JJ you get to 41% and this would make it a call.
I think you are likely behind but have just about enough equity to make the call. It is close though and in game I can easily see me fold in this position
If playing QJo against an early smallish stack I would be expecting to be allowed to steal often in position when checked to otherwise I would just fold. When you hit and the V. donks small I think re-raising is good but with the intention of not folding and I think I would have make it slghtly more, to about 8000.
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rrumsey
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flatting pre isnt that bad imo if we have a good idea of what villain does postflop. Just know you can semibluff or float then steal ott. Like if villain is the type to cbet then give up flatting is awesome. no reads it may be +ev still to call but never really a big mistake to fold pre.
Just think about what is the bigger exploit:
* Folding pre with decent equity against his range
* Folding otf with a ton of equity against his range
* raise folding 30 BB on a dry board with a lot of equity vs his range when he leads the flop
clearly you did not pick the best option. You see why?
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JSTOCK
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Appreciate the feedback fellas!
Without information on the utg raiser, it seems like I should be folding pre more often than flatting in this spot. As played, the min-raise allowed V to play his hand perfectly and, as Base noted, I probably committed myself to the pot. Despite how badly I played the hand, I believe the fold was correct.
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rrumsey
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the flat was not the point of the hand i would beat yourself up on man. At worse its a small leak, at best its kinda profitable. the postflop play here is what is going to lose you a lot of chips
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