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I was playing vs a very passive player heads up on one 180 , he folded 6-7 btn in row. So now he has like 9-11bb whats the best approach when we are on the btn? Shove ATC or just shove unbalanced , shove Ax, premium , pairs , broadway and maybe min raise / fold rags 72 , 32 and stuff like that.


Also in an other heads up vs an aggressive opp .
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Hero (BTN/SB): t83500 M = 7.02
BB: t186500 M = 15.67

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Dealt to letit-23 [As 4c]

i was complete the blind couple hands before with 56o and we get to showdown and he saw my hand. When i get the A4o i wanted to limp / call a shove from him , is it good enough hand to do that or should we just shove and wait a better hand to trap and what range would be good ?

Minraise atc on him. If he shoves its a crappy spot because we are probably behind but I would call. Use small cbet sizing like 1/3rd and win a bunch of pots without showdown. Limp call isn't a very good plan because we will not induce this player to shove much wider than he would call a shove with. If you have like A8+ just shove preflop because he will flat with about the same range he calls a shove with, and we don't want to miss value versus these hands.

pretty sure its an easy nash shove. i dont know how to work those charts very well but its a pure math unexploitable question imo with this stack. and i would shove unbalanced. if he is passive he probably doesn't call as wide as he should so i would min shit and shove value hands tbh. doubt he will pick up on that. No need to balance against people who arent thinking about it

Forget the correct theorhetical play. take advantage of his weakness, being passive. Consider this:

My standard line of heads up play on 45s on Tilt were to starting off limping and cbetting the flop about 80 to 100% of the time. If my opponents cooperates then he has very little chance of winning. Often times he will not know what to do and start going all in. By not raising, it effectively makes the stacks larger. If your opponent raises their button then you must abandon this strategy quickly. I won about 3 out 4 heads up matches against the weak opponents in $10 45s.

Note - against $75 45s players I won about 53% of my matches so this does not work against better opponents and in heads up sngs this is a losing strategy

Forget the correct theorhetical play. take advantage of his weakness, being passive. Consider this:

My standard line of heads up play on 45s on Tilt were to starting off limping and cbetting the flop about 80 to 100% of the time. If my opponents cooperates then he has very little chance of winning. Often times he will not know what to do and start going all in. By not raising, it effectively makes the stacks larger. If your opponent raises their button then you must abandon this strategy quickly. I won about 3 out 4 heads up matches against the weak opponents in $10 45s.

Note - against $75 45s players I won about 53% of my matches so this does not work against better opponents and in heads up sngs this is a losing strategy

over what sample? limping pre is not bad here, but this short i dont love it. maybe a little deeper imo.

I can not look up my stats any more but I made about 20k on 45s on Tilt. I suppose I had at least 1k in games of $10 45s. I did not grind these with as many games as some of the bigger multi table grinders. I had time to pay attention to heads up play. I suppose that is a small sample size but I dont need a big sample size to know I completed dominated so many opponents at that level. Raising inflates the pot but I also think it makes the weaker player defend more psychologically. I won so many pots by delaying my raise to post flop. If this were a cash game then not raising would be an obvious mistake because you dont need to make the relative stakes deeper.

Obviously this strategy is geared for weak inexperienced low stake mtt/sng opponents.

i wasn't saying what you were doing is bad. honestly i still struggle with what my open limp ranges should be ( like say sb vs bb in mtt's vs weak villains). I saw jjyykk do it in a vid once ir twice. i agreed with his logic just never seem to wrap my brain around exactly what stacks tbh. i find myself doing what i think a lot of people do and just push fold.

against a passive player i'd be minraising most hands, even this short. they're just giving away too many blinds and it's better to minr/fold 96o than shove 96o if his 3bet range is going to be very tight.

lower pairs and weak Ax hands probably fall more comfortably into hands i'd rather just jam because you're going to have to call 3bet shoves with them and it's probably better to pick up the pot shoving vs a tight range rather than minr/call vs a slightly wider range.