with the K6 at the end HU, isnt it a pretty easy SAGE call? Villain would have to be really tight for it not to be +EV and from his previous play and your read on him it didnt seem so
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with the K6 at the end HU, isnt it a pretty easy SAGE call? Villain would have to be really tight for it not to be +EV and from his previous play and your read on him it didnt seem so
with the K6 at the end HU, isnt it a pretty easy SAGE call? Villain would have to be really tight for it not to be +EV and from his previous play and your read on him it didnt seem so
Actually yeah, it is a call, thanks for pointing that out and apologies for my lazy fold. I'm not all that familiar with SAGE, but it's probably close to Nash, and almost any king is probably a call (I think you can argue for throwing away K2o/K3o in some situations). Though, I do think there's merit to the types of spots where, if you feel a spot is close in calling, it's usually going to be better to wait to shove the next button and create that FE for yourself in lots of short stacked situations with marginal holdings.
Unfortunately this wasn't one of those spots, but probably still worth noting
This was recorded at 430am EST one morning, so I'll just surrender to having made a lazy pass.
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You won't consider folding KTo there?
Because I neither like pushing this kind of hand nor completing it with the given stacksize and the position postflop.
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You won't consider folding KTo there?
Because I neither like pushing this kind of hand nor completing it with the given stacksize and the position postflop.
I think folding is fine. It's close with shoving but I don't love it either with how many Ax/low PP hands we seem to get limp called with nowadays at the low levels, but I'd probably shove with KJo and definitely would at least complete it with 2 other limpers in there. Basically, I think a lot of the broadway combinations and pairs that aren't good enough to shove with are the types of hands we want to complete with here---a fairly narrow, defined range, but one that can flop us big enough hands (top pair with a reasonable kicker or better) that will usually be good enough to get in with post flop with such short effective stacks and the very attractive odds. We're getting ~7:1 on the complete preflop, and will flop a pair or better more than twice as often. We're not planning on bluffing ever, but this defined completing range allows us to not really have to worry about folding when we do hit (Except in extreme scenarios). But the shorter I get here (any shorter than this, actually) and my completing range becomes virtually non existent. I think the entire dynamic is a pretty marginal one overall in SNGs and tight is a reasonable way to go.
Hope this helps put it into perspective a bit.
thanks for another great vid
@ the 51.25 mark, you say that it's a good spot to shove but not with A6o with ~12BB. What would be the bottom of your range here to shove from the hijack, then CO, then button.
thx
thanks for another great vid
@ the 51.25 mark, you say that it's a good spot to shove but not with A6o with ~12BB. What would be the bottom of your range here to shove from the hijack, then CO, then button.
thx
Will definitely depend on the table/specific stacks (within .5-1bb perhaps) and players behind. Assuming we're talking about this specific 1265 stack in all of those positions, I guess from the hijack I'd actually be fairly tight with this stack in a STT. Maybe not shoving much wider than 44, A9s(A8s?), ATo type hands. This would probably change noticeably with even 1 less BB, but that can depend a lot on just how loosely they're calling behind.
I'd shove hands like A7s, A9o (A8o?), KQ and KJs (possibly KJo too) in the CO. On the BTN I'd extend that to KT and most of my suited aces, probably down to A6o or so. Cramming all of my pairs from both CO and btn most likely.
Hope that helps.
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You say that the ranges for the 10BB and 4BB shoves aren't tight enough to make you want to fold JJ.
However, it's actually a 12.5BB shove (t1900). You mention at 25:00, that if it was a shove and call of t2000 you could think about folding if they were particularly tight.
Given the t1900, does this change your play at all?
You say that the ranges for the 10BB and 4BB shoves aren't tight enough to make you want to fold JJ.
However, it's actually a 12.5BB shove (t1900). You mention at 25:00, that if it was a shove and call of t2000 you could think about folding if they were particularly tight.
Given the t1900, does this change your play at all?
I meant if they both had ~2000. So no, I don't think that the shover having 12.5bb instead of 10 is nearly enough to make jacks a fold, especially considering how wide lots of ~4bb stacks will be inclined to stick in the rest of their chips in between us. Jacks are just too strong .
Do you guys still play poker?
Do you guys still play poker?
Hi,
my volume has dropped off gradually throughout the year owing to mostly circumstances out of my control (black friday) + working in other areas within the industry. I do still play live periodically (cash games and tournaments), and might be looking into a move outside of the USA in the near future to continue some of my online playing ventures.
Bones does still play, but currently his primary game of choice are heads up NL cash games.
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