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Endgame: Episode Two

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Endgame: Episode Two by Luceboy

Luceboy returns with a friend, as they discuss a recent tournament Luceboy played and ICM.

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Luceboy breaks down the business end of 6max SNGs in his debut miniseries.

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  • Game: mttsng
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 80 minutes long
  • Posted over 2 years ago

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Luceboy

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Maybe this is a leak of mine, but I think these are great spots to pick up chips against habitual limpers with 5-6bbs. You and your friend said that this is definitely a fold but Sally is a habitual limper and if he is limping about 40%, he would have to limp/call more than half that range for this not to be profitable with T7s.



Sounds like youre a born turbo player. T7s plays well postflop and so im not looking to pick up the pot right now. I prefer to use my skillzzz and eek out some value OOP. I agree that high blind limpers need to be exploited but in this case i prefer to limp, it is a reg speed after all. Im sure that calling here is more +$EV than shoving

Posted over 2 years ago

sharpie07

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I appreciate your interest, it helps me to learn too Smile. Whats your username and what site do you play on?



I play on UB. Username will have to be kept a secret =). Thank you very much for responding to all my comments, I appreciate it soooooo much. I realize that I asked a ton of questions that people would probably normally ask in coaching. I wanted to get the most out of the video and figured that this would be the best way, whether you answered the questions or not. I'm surprised you answered all of them.

I like the format of the video where you and your friend review your play together. I normally do a lot of HH reviews with a friend as well. Keep up the good work and I'll try to ask fewer questions on my next one! Thanks again =)

Posted over 2 years ago

Luceboy

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I play on UB. Username will have to be kept a secret =). Thank you very much for responding to all my comments, I appreciate it soooooo much. I realize that I asked a ton of questions that people would probably normally ask in coaching. I wanted to get the most out of the video and figured that this would be the best way, whether you answered the questions or not. I'm surprised you answered all of them.

I like the format of the video where you and your friend review your play together. I normally do a lot of HH reviews with a friend as well. Keep up the good work and I'll try to ask fewer questions on my next one! Thanks again =)



I'll bear that in mind for future videos. I actually made this video without showing my friend the HH so that his suggestions would be totally genuine. Feel free to ask as many questions as you want, i just wont be able to promise that i'll be able to respond to them all (and in as much detail) but ill try!

Ill be interested to hear what you think of my 3rd video (out today), let me know.

Posted over 2 years ago

Evjen

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Time Link to 00:31:45

I think fold in this situation, because a raise would make the SPR really awkard for a C-bet. Furthermore, a call is very likely here as you are raising into four opponents, two of them being fishbowls that is very likely to call.

Posted over 2 years ago

Evjen

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If you assume that villain almost always have some kind of the flop here, why would you call? You mentions implied odds, but you don't actually have most implied odds, your SPR are only around 10, and you don't have anywhere near expressed odds to call, if you assume you likely are indeed behind.

Posted over 2 years ago

Luceboy

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I think fold in this situation, because a raise would make the SPR really awkard for a C-bet. Furthermore, a call is very likely here as you are raising into four opponents, two of them being fishbowls that is very likely to call.



Even though im fairly short i still prefer the raise. Ive got A9 which is too good for me to fold, although at the same time isnt good enough for a stack from UTG for 12.5BB. As for my opponents, pokerpro is playing a million tables and will be playing a tight robot poker game, Jody Nines although a fishbowl, is actually fairly tight preflop (and passive postflop) and SetTheHook wont neccessarily see this as an opportunity to resteal considering my position UTG. All in all, i can happily fold if im reraised preflop.

The most likely scenario is that i'll be called by the BB in which case im going to have to play a pot without much room to manouevre (like you said) but then again i do stand to be well ahead of his range and have position on him so i still like that situation. This move wouldnt be so great if there was a larger chance of me being reraised preflop. I still have enough chips to make a small c-bet, although in reality i'd be checking behind unless i had hit the flop - the opponent isnt all that aggressive and my hand has a lot of showdown value.

I can understand the reasons why you would prefer to fold here, it does put you in a tight spot most of the time and gives you tough decisions. However i just feel that folding A9 in this situation is too tight and am comfortable playing it with a really small SPR. You always have to remember that everyone *might* fold in which case you will steal those juicy blinds. If you're playing a 3 dollar then i dont like this move so much but considering i know my opponents its definitely +EV.

Posted over 2 years ago

Luceboy

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If you assume that villain almost always have some kind of the flop here, why would you call? You mentions implied odds, but you don't actually have most implied odds, your SPR are only around 10, and you don't have anywhere near expressed odds to call, if you assume you likely are indeed behind.



Jody is probably not betting a 6 or a draw, meaning shes most likely betting either top or second pair. My express odds are only 3:1, when i need like 8.2:1 in order to call profitably to hit two pair or trips considering my plan is only to see the turn and fold if she bets again. However, I definitely have implied odds as she has 3800 behind and she will definitely stack off if she holds an ace. I wouldnt fold bottom pair here to anyone, not in position anyway. Theres also the chance that you have the best hand as Jody is a fishbowl and might surprise you some time.

Are you a cash game player? You keep talking about SPR which is something that i rarely ever use. 6max SNGs are far too fast paced and people are far too willing to stack off for 50BB with top pair for it to be of much use in my opinion. I dont doubt that its a useful tool, i think i have an intuitive sense but never actually translate that into numbers.

Posted over 2 years ago

Evjen

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Are you a cash game player? You keep talking about SPR which is something that i rarely ever use. 6max SNGs are far too fast paced and people are far too willing to stack off for 50BB with top pair for it to be of much use in my opinion. I dont doubt that its a useful tool, i think i have an intuitive sense but never actually translate that into numbers.



I am not a cash game player, I specialize in SNGs. I know that SPRs are more of a cash game concept than a SNG concept and I seldom calculates it at the tables. One exception are when I am considering set mining preflop, as Md261 advocates to have an SPR of at least 20 in those scenarios (or multiple limpers).

That being said, I think it's a quite useful term to use when discussing a) implied odds and b) such situations like in the A9 utg raise hand, as you woldn't like the SPR to be somewhere in between 1,1 and 3 if considering a C-bet.

Posted over 2 years ago

Luceboy

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I am not a cash game player, I specialize in SNGs. I know that SPRs are more of a cash game concept than a SNG concept and I seldom calculates it at the tables. One exception are when I am considering set mining preflop, as Md261 advocates to have an SPR of at least 20 in those scenarios (or multiple limpers).

That being said, I think it's a quite useful term to use when discussing a) implied odds and b) such situations like in the A9 utg raise hand, as you woldn't like the SPR to be somewhere in between 1,1 and 3 if considering a C-bet.



I'll confess i actually had to look up what SPR meant as i'd never heard of it before i read it in your post. Setmining is probably its most useful application as many SNG players seem to think that its ok to setmine at 25-50 and even 50-100, which as you pointed out is a bad idea as you rarely get enough implied. Maybe ill give it a mention in my next video.

As for the A9, i realise that considering the circumstances i dont want to be c-betting with that stack, A9 is one of those trouble hands that i consider almost too good to fold first in at 50-100, but not good enough to stack for 12.5BB. Other hands would include KJ and 66. Usually i'd fold them but occasionally when the table is right you can drop in a min raise if your oppoenents are tight and generally passive. I guess it depends on how comfortable you are playing post-flop with probably just A high with a short stack. Most people arent so i really dont mind a fold.

Posted over 2 years ago

Evjen

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As for the A9, i realise that considering the circumstances i dont want to be c-betting with that stack, A9 is one of those trouble hands that i consider almost too good to fold first in at 50-100, but not good enough to stack for 12.5BB. Other hands would include KJ and 66. Usually i'd fold them but occasionally when the table is right you can drop in a min raise if your oppoenents are tight and generally passive. I guess it depends on how comfortable you are playing post-flop with probably just A high with a short stack. Most people arent so i really dont mind a fold.



Would you consider making it 400, folding to a 3-bet, but stacking the flop no matter what? True, you would get huge odds of 3-betted, but then again almost guaranteed be dominated bad. Furthermore, a 3-bet is unlikely, as you are projecting massive strength, and because you are mostly up against passive opponents (and the good players are tight enough and would probably reason they don't have any fold equity if they shove over, incorrectly so in this particular instance).

Posted over 2 years ago

Luceboy

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Would anyone who posted on this video be interested in sending me a Tournament HH that i could use in my next series?

I'm looking for a 6max SNG tournament HH, preferably 25$+ played on PokerStars (lol). As I work with a HUD i'd prefer it if you were able to supply me with a few stats on your opponents such as VPIP, PRF, AF and Attempt to Steal. You'll also have to have an ITM finish.

Any takers? Let me know soon, ive only got 2 weeks til im back Smile

Posted about 2 years ago




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