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Poker Video: MTT/SNG by bones (High Stakes)

i think smiling when you see your hole cards is a leak

Time Link to 00:29:43

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/912-Episode-One?seek=1783

timed down & then called a shove for 1/2 your chips w/ AQo utg+1. It's not 100% clear how many players are left & how close to the bubble you are (2 tables?), but isn't this a pretty clear fold for 1/2 your stack @ this stage of the tourney? Earlier bones noted that this is a shove (in the villain's spot) at an earlier stage w/ medium PPs and villain is not short enuf for this to be a desperation shove that hero can snap off w/ great pot odds (villain's stack = abt 18-19 bb not including antes). plus villain's range is most likely flipping w/ you for 1/2 your stack which is the best case scenario.

Luke, could you tell us how many players were left when you made this call? Plus remind us of the structure of this satellite? tx. s/s.

(BTW, fwiw, I love the format for this video. It's like getting 2 videos for the price of one.)

I was wondering about that AQo hand aswell cause it seemed like a fold to me but what do you do there with TT,JJ or AK

sick sick sick vid.

love the format.

you run gooooooooood goggles!


well done guys, thanks

Great stuff, but I keep wondering...

Shouldnt we be pushing extremely tight as well, if our opponents are capable of making bad icm calls that still crush our range?

this has nothing to do with this particular video i just sorta have a general question i wanna ask. You have 10 BB and a pair of 9s, the blinds are halfway through the field to pass again and will go up to 500 before they come to u. Super nit who has only QQ+ in this spot ships it. Do we call it or not? What if his range is JJ+ and AK?

this has nothing to do with this particular video i just sorta have a general question i wanna ask. You have 10 BB and a pair of 9s, the blinds are halfway through the field to pass again and will go up to 500 before they come to u. Super nit who has only QQ+ in this spot ships it. Do we call it or not? What if his range is JJ+ and AK?

If you can actually define his range to be either QQ+ or JJ+/AK than it would be a horrible spot. You'll be getting it in as a huge dog 80% of the time, and flipping a couple times vs AK. But giving those type of ranges usually mean you're giving too much credit to villains.

In regular MTTs, are players shoving QQ+ that often, with more than 15bb?

I had a discussion with a very good player that considered calling a 19bb shove from a LAG SB, in BB with K9o, because he felt he could exclude 99+,AQ+ from his range.

If we should balance with premiums, wouldn`t we lose a lot of value by not raise/call instead?

Luke, could you tell us how many players were left when you made this call? Plus remind us of the structure of this satellite? tx. s/s.

(BTW, fwiw, I love the format for this video. It's like getting 2 videos for the price of one.)

I think 3 tables, maybe 20 or 21 players or something. I thought this was actually the toughest decision in the tournament (cuz I didn't know how bad QQ was!) and thought for awhile before saying "F it". I just didn't think it was close enough to the bubble to fold.

Great stuff, but I keep wondering...

Shouldnt we be pushing extremely tight as well, if our opponents are capable of making bad icm calls that still crush our range?

This is a consideration, but I do think STCATH1 (if that is his name) knew what was going on and would fold a lot of good hands.

Some reasoning for shoving in those spots is that the stacks become polarized and in favor of them. If I fold, they gain chips and I lose chips, thus making me the short stack and forcing me to be the one to make the last move. For instance, if I have 14BBs and Cath has 14, but we're SB/BB, I fold and have 13.5BBs left and he has 15.5BBs now.

Probably donkey logic but I think it applies and makes these things easier/less stressful to play.

In regular MTTs, are players shoving QQ+ that often, with more than 15bb?

I had a discussion with a very good player that considered calling a 19bb shove from a LAG SB, in BB with K9o, because he felt he could exclude 99+,AQ+ from his range.

If we should balance with premiums, wouldn`t we lose a lot of value by not raise/call instead?

Balancing in MTTs is silly considering we very rarely play the same people multiple times. If you have a history of always raise/calling good hands against a certain player, sure you can balance by open shoving them, but meh.

I would always just do what I think is optimal in a vaccuum.

you run good.

lol.

Great video. Hope we can have more MTT satellite videos in the future.