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Tournamentality: Episode One

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Tournamentality: Episode One by Joe Tall, fslexcduck

Vanessa sits down with Joe Tall to discuss hands from his play at the Main Event of the World Series of Poker.

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Vanessa uses her exciting new podcast to discuss high-level tournament strategy with guest experts.

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  • Game: mttsng
  • Stakes: High Stakes
  • 53 minutes long
  • Posted almost 3 years ago

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steamer1956

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"Vanessa uses her exciting new podcast to discuss high-level tournament strategy with guest experts."

While I agree that a video series would have been better, I don't think they are trying to mislead people. It says it's a podcast right in the description.

Vanessa podcast > nothing imo.



Have no problem with a Vanessa podcast - seems like a good idea.

For roughly the last week it's been on the "Poker Videos" calendar as Tournamentality with Joe Tall and fslexduck. I know it's the Poker Video Calendar because I clicked the big "Poker Videos" link at the top of the page to get there. (There is also a big "Podcast" link - guess what I'd expect to find there.)

The description that's now available does mention podcast, though why we need 4 formats and a photo jigsaw for a podcast I don't know.

As far as managing expectations go - it's not what I expected.

I would recommend This book to those that layout the site.

Peace.

Posted almost 3 years ago

Triplethink

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Show replay of the hands, then it's a video. Smile Would be easier to follow the action between all the tangents.

Posted almost 3 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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I can assure you that you're feedback is def welcome. DC always want to hear what their users want and tries hard to deliver on those desires. Keep your feedback coming.

That being said, i would suggest. Possibly saying what you want vanessa to discuss in this podcast. Also we have a plo series from dj this season that u should check out Smile

Posted almost 3 years ago

KRANTZ

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Yes I listened to it, hence how I knew it was a podcast.

Sorry if negative feedback isn't welcomed here. I am simply giving my opinion.

I am sure you and everyone at DC does put a lot of work in everything you do. Which is why I signed up here in the first place. Quality coaches, quality product. I would gladly pay monthly for video series by Vanessa, yourself, Magicninja, and Nowwhereman, you all are fabulous IMO.

But, that doesn't you do not make mistakes either.

I am sure there will be plenty of members that enjoy this and have zero issue.

My point again, was and is, this is a podcast not a series IMO. It could have been put in the podcast section, and we could have been given a series on something be it MTT, or PLO(Yes please!!!) We only get so many series, and I feel, this was not a series and took a valuable spot.



i should clarify that ALL feedback is welcome, positive or negative, just please do your best to make it constructive for us. we will be putting out various MTT/SNG videos this season in addition to this.

it was never our intention to mislead - in our opinion putting it on the podcast page would result in a lot of ppl missing out on content they should be engaging with. we specifically chose to present it in this format so we could allow you guys to engage directly with vanessa in thread, and because we wanted the ability to include timestamps for ppl to select which parts they want to listen to. not quite a video, but more than a podcast, IMO.

Posted almost 3 years ago

eajunkie

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I am by no means trying to be a jerk here. Nor, do I want to hijack this comment section.

I was simply trying to state a opinion, which I think I have so no need repeating the same thing over.

Your response explains why you used podcast as a series, and I can understand the reasoning.

I am currently a member at CR for least 2 more months, and I will say I love this site more, and feel you have a better stable not only of coaches, but of quality videos. I know you all work hard here, and again that is why I came here.

Did not mean to make an issue out of this. I just stated I felt a series, plus this podcast would have been better, you responded why this was done and I understand your reasoning.

Krantz I think you are a awesome poker player, and you also explain things very well which is a rare combination. As does Vanessa.

So I will refrain from further posts here until this series is complete and than I will chime in again.

Posted almost 3 years ago

KRANTZ

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I am by no means trying to be a jerk here. Nor, do I want to hijack this comment section.

I was simply trying to state a opinion, which I think I have so no need repeating the same thing over.

Your response explains why you used podcast as a series, and I can understand the reasoning.

I am currently a member at CR for least 2 more months, and I will say I love this site more, and feel you have a better stable not only of coaches, but of quality videos. I know you all work hard here, and again that is why I came here.

Did not mean to make an issue out of this. I just stated I felt a series, plus this podcast would have been better, you responded why this was done and I understand your reasoning.

Krantz I think you are a awesome poker player, and you also explain things very well which is a rare combination. As does Vanessa.

So I will refrain from further posts here until this series is complete and than I will chime in again.



no no don't worry about it! we appreciate the feedback along the way too, if you prefer you can always PM me, DJ Sensei or tecmo with comments/suggestions. glad you like it here, so do we! as zac efron points out, we all in this together.

Posted almost 3 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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So I will refrain from further posts here until this series is complete and than I will chime in again.



Again, I would suggest offering feedback along the way. The podcasts are recorded each week so if there is something you'd like Vanessa to discuss, I'm sure she'd be happy to oblige! Smile

Posted almost 3 years ago

pokerkatz

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THIS IS GREAT!! I wish all video makers would describe their hands and tables like this so I could listen to the "video's" while cruising along at 12mph during rush hour! I will listen to every one!!
Adding some video content (hand replayer type) would be nice for those "visual" types.

Posted almost 3 years ago

fslexcduck

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Hey everyone,

We DEFINITELY welcome your feedback, be it positive or negative. But please do give this a chance.

I've done a lot of thinking about how to bring you really amazing poker content... I think a podcast has a lot of merit, and my goal is to do it in generally 35-45 minute sessions (this was a little long) so you can listen to it on your morning commute, or as you eat lunch, or you know, whatever. I think not having the visual is a nice change of pace because it makes me give a very good description of the details in a way that's easy to conceptualize, and enables you to just listen and not watch.

I also think that making a podcast gives me a lot more ability to bring on really cool people, as it takes a lot less equipment and planning. My plan for this series is to have guests of all caliber, from coaches, to amateur players I meet at tournaments, to guest poker pros. The thing about a podcast is I can bring my equipment to a casino and record with players there, and it's also less work for the big shots who would be more likely to do a 30 minute conversation than sit with me through a video, which takes a lot longer to produce.

I really think this is going to be a great thing... I'm hoping at least. I'm trying to do a mix, about 3/4 strategy and 1/4 general ramblings and random discussions about tournaments and life and all else. I hope you enjoy, and please as always, give feedback along the way, and ask me questions about the show in this thread.

Lastly, if you play in a tournament and go relatively deep and have interesting hands, you could be a guest on the podcast. Send me an email to vanessa@deucescracked.com, subject: Tournamentality episode content. Then tell me about the tournament, about the hands you think are interesting, and about your analysis. Make it detailed, as I'm going to select people I think have thought deeply about the content so we can have a rich discussion. I hope to hear from you!

Cheers,
Vanessa

Posted almost 3 years ago

jdhnpc

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You guys are crazy, I think this is great. Just because this exists does not in any way mean that "other" content is locked out.

Vanessa is definitely one of my favorite coaches on this site, and i love the idea of more content you can listen to. I know that I chose DC because of all the content that you can download and use on ipods etc.

Great show, and I assume the idea of having it as a video, is that the content is available to paying customers only, and we can have the threads and timestamps? Whereas Heyball and Deuce Plays is downloadable for anyone. You considering an itunes link for easy updating?

Nice job Vanessa and Joe, cant wait for the next episode. Only suggestion would be to recap board and cards more often, it is tough to follow only listening sometimes.

Final note, I crave DC content on the go so much, that I have all of the ipod content and I hang my ipod on the visor of my car as I drive in traffic and follow hand history

Posted almost 3 years ago

hahasofunny

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Am going to check this out tomorrow, just wanted to make a quick comment re: the format.

I actually really like podcast series, Tommy Angelo's was more or less a podcast (aka video with funny hat animations, well to be honest there was real value to watching it as some of the animations were pretty cool - but it stood alone as a podcast also) - and it's perfect for playing while you're grinding.

That's what I'm going to be doing with this, and looking forward to it =)

Posted almost 3 years ago

Joe Tall

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Great show, and I assume the idea of having it as a video, is that the content is available to paying customers only, and we can have the threads and timestamps? Whereas Heyball and Deuce Plays is downloadable for anyone. You considering an itunes link for easy updating?




Yes, this is 100% on the money. The PodCasts are free, and this is members-only, and also pre-time stamped for your benefit.

Nice job Vanessa and Joe, cant wait for the next episode. Only suggestion would be to recap board and cards more often, it is tough to follow only listening sometimes.

Final note, I crave DC content on the go so much, that I have all of the ipod content and I hang my ipod on the visor of my car as I drive in traffic and follow hand history



Great suggestion! Also, I tend to re-talk hand histories in my review videos, so if you havent checked out the Late Night Coaching series, please do.

Thanks for your kind reply,
Joe

Posted almost 3 years ago

Sounded Simple

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I've done a lot of thinking about how to bring you really amazing poker content... I think a podcast has a lot of merit, and my goal is to do it in generally 35-45 minute sessions (this was a little long) so you can listen to it on your morning commute, or as you eat lunch, or you know, whatever. I think not having the visual is a nice change of pace because it makes me give a very good description of the details in a way that's easy to conceptualize, and enables you to just listen and not watch.



I feel kind of weird chiming in on the feedback as I'm a coach here so I'm just going to say that:
A) I'm not posting this because I'm just shilling for the site
B) The opinions of those who disliked the content are as relevant as mine.

With that said, duck hits the nail on the head here. We all lead different lives and some of you are lucky enough to be full time pros with few other commitments so might not see the true value of podcast format.

Some of us though with jobs/families spend a lot of time commuting or doing random boring tasks like doing the maintenance round the house.
Podcasts are an absolute godsend for this and I'd be really happy to see more fresh strategy based podcasts.

Deuceplays is by far the best for strategy content but it has a strong live play bias, I'd like to hear more 6-max online cash voices just talking strategy with each other, picking brains and even downright arguing about strategy.

Just my 2c

Posted almost 3 years ago

SilentBob

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Great first episode & definitely looking forward to the rest of the series. Lots of potential for future episodes!
In particular I liked the discussion about the hand when Joe had AA against the inexperienced big stack and Scott Clements and the thought processes involved given the dynamic in the hand. What if the other player in the hand had been someone other than Scott? Would that change how the hand would have played out, and if so, how?
Perhaps you could also go into a bit more detail about how to play multiway hands where you have players that are obviously inexperienced, as well as ones that are obviously solid to very good players. How do the dynamics changed based on stacks, position, etc?
Good to see some brick & mortar content on the site as well! You know some of us play more 'live' poker than online ...

Posted almost 3 years ago

DJ Sensei

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I assume the idea of having it as a video, is that the content is available to paying customers only, and we can have the threads and timestamps?



Yea, we actually spent a fair bit of time debating how to present it, and decided to use the video format mainly so that we can use threads and timestamps. We also decided to go ahead and add "section markers" on the timeline right from the get-go, so that people could more easily navigate.

Final note, I crave DC content on the go so much, that I have all of the ipod content and I hang my ipod on the visor of my car as I drive in traffic and follow hand history



Well, that seems ill-advised Poke Tongue. Don't crash!

Posted almost 3 years ago




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