Tournament Poker Poker Forums

What do you have on your HUD and why?


JtX

Avatar for JtX

621 posts
Joined 12/2009

I recently moved from PT3 to HEM and have been tuning up my HUD for a while. I have tried to get stats up that would be easy to interpret while multitabling, would give me information I actually use while making decisions and would converge fast. I am looking for other useful stats to include and how I could use them to make decisions.

What have I included on my HUD and I like them:

Abbreviated name: I don't want to lose money because HUD stats are in the wrong place. Has happened with PT3 (stats move to right place only after a hand has been played).

Voluntarily Put In Pot (VPIP): Easy way to look how generally loose a player is. Useful for putting people on ranges postflop, higher VPIP means wider range. An effective fish-o-meter. Converges really fast to an useful stat.

Preflop raise (PFR): An indicator how generally aggressive an opponent is preflop. Useful stat to find out maniacs and to get out of nits' way.

Steal: How aggressive opponent is from the late position preflop. I can use it to tune how often do I need to defend. When combining PFR and Steal I can see if opponent is positionally aware.

3-bet: How often opponent reraises a preflop raise. This is important, because I can raise more from late position against players that do not 3-bet often. If opponent 3-bets often, I can use the information to trap him or to shove over him when I'm in between of raise/calling, raise/folding and shoving.

Aggression percentage: With aggression percentage I can see how often an opponent will bet or raise postflop. I can then weed out the players that bet only when they hit something well and players that will bet regardless of hitting a flop. I find this way more useful than the default aggression factor that compares how often player raises compared how often he calls.

Hands: How reliable my data is.

Filtered by the amount of players dealt into the hand: In my opinion this is a very important thing to do for SNGs, because players' tendencies change so much during the SNG. I want to see the players who do not adjust when table gets shorter and the players that do adjust. I have tried to make a smooth progression between levels, so that I wouldn't have any "blind spots".

What I have on the HUD I am unsure about:

Tourney M: Got an idea from the forums here, seems to be a fast way to look up opponent's stacks. Have only used it for a couple of days so really can't say anything yet.

SB Fold Vs steal: This is a stat I have had only for a while. I just generally don't even look at it when I do a decision preflop. It has been useful in a handful of situations and it converges fast, but I just can't seem to find use for it in many situations.

BB Fold Vs steal: Same as for SB Fold Vs steal.

Stats I have tried, but have not worked for me:

CBet: Could be useful, but takes forever to converge in tournament poker. When we are short, raises are all-ins, when we are nearly short, our raises will quite likely be 3-bet shoved on and there's not a lot deep action.

Fold to CBet: Could be useful, but takes forever^2 to converge in tournament poker.

Fold to 3-bet: Could be useful, but takes forever to converge. I can usually get the pretty much same information by combining Steal and PFR-percentages, because people with wider ranges will generally fold to a 3-bet more often.

Posted almost 2 years ago

daggermouth

Avatar for daggermouth

63 posts
Joined 03/2010

I also have HEM but don't use the HUD... I did not know however that it could do M(would certainly be nice while I multi).

When I did use a HUD all I used was Vpip, PFR, CB, Fold 2 CB, and number of hands.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Uninc158

Avatar for Uninc158

438 posts
Joined 08/2008

I have pt2,pt3 and hem but dont use the HUD tournament poker so dependent on the situation, and often don't see players enough to get a good sample on any of the stats in question, observation more importent imo.

Cant remember whos been active last few hands, click on the hh, see who's name is on it frequently, want to know who craises with their big hands, who bets out etc? Watch the tables, or go through the replays of shown down hands in the breaks.

That said huds definitely have their place in cash games or deep stacked tourneys.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Delliks

Avatar for Delliks

181 posts
Joined 10/2009

I also have HEM but don't use the HUD... I did not know however that it could do M(would certainly be nice while I multi).

When I did use a HUD all I used was Vpip, PFR, CB, Fold 2 CB, and number of hands.



Why do you not use your HUD? it's gold!

Posted almost 2 years ago

Tehanu

Avatar for Tehanu

103 posts
Joined 02/2008

I think having a lot of differents stats in your HUD is a bit useless if you're playing sng's. The most important ones are obviously vpip and pfr. Within the first 10-20 hands you can spot the fish easily by just looking at these two stats. Agression is an ok stat to have aswell.

3-bet i feel is pretty much a useless stat in sng's. 3-bet bluffing almost never occurs and when it does it's often bu/co raise and a resteal shove from the blinds and the stacks need to be setup right for this. If there's a guy who just 3-bets relentlessly in the early/mid levels you'll spot him without that stat anyways.

The other useful stats imo are steal and fold BB vs steal. You need some hands for these to be somewhat accurate but they're decent i think.

You just need lots and lots of hands for some of the stats to be useful at all and guys you have a lot of hands on are usually the other regs and they all play pretty much the same way anyways in the early/mid. You can often tell if you have a profitable cbet or not by just looking at the vpip/pfr if he's an unknown rather than having a huge and a messy hud with fold to cbet in there.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Delliks

Avatar for Delliks

181 posts
Joined 10/2009

If there's a guy who just 3-bets relentlessly in the early/mid levels you'll spot him without that stat anyways.



Unless you're playing toooo many tables like me, then I think these type of stats really help in tricky situations.

I agree the VIP and PFR are also the main stats you need for SNG's, and you need lot's of hands for the rest of the stats to become meaningful.

I use the colors on FT too, this helps me spot, FISH, GAMBLERS, CALLING STATIONS, ROCKS, TAGs, PRO's etc straight away. Just make a list assinging a color to these type of players, I normally do not assign a color until I have 250+ hands on a player, I've rarely had to change a color once assigned. Apart from my own Wink

Posted almost 2 years ago

Dzikijohnny

Avatar for Dzikijohnny

141 posts
Joined 12/2009

I don't use M. I use BB. I play stt on Fulltilt so antes don't matter to me.

Posted almost 2 years ago

kadazuro

Avatar for kadazuro

129 posts
Joined 10/2009

as a note:
you can make the Abbreviated name stat to be shorter (3 or 4 characters) by changing the decimals property to a higher number, great space saver imho

kz.

Posted over 1 year ago

AMT

Avatar for AMT

Coach
2070 posts
Joined 01/2008

For donkaments I generally use VPIP/PFR/Aggression frequencies/3 bet/fold to 3bet/cbet/fold to cbet/sample size. Just seems like they've been the most pertinent stats in terms of making use of them in-game/helping to identify player tendencies. Even some of these stats take a long time to actually mean anything so I feel as though using other, more detailed stats that take a longer time to converge is mainly just a headache for tournaments (except perhaps against regulars, whom you can look up in your database for the rest of the detailed stats). For cash games I start looking more into barreling frequency stats, WTSD, 4 betting, etc....

Posted over 1 year ago




HomePoker ForumsTournament Poker → What do you have on your HUD and why?