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MTT: OMGClayDol (#3) - Sunday Million Part 2

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MTT: OMGClayDol (#3) - Sunday Million Part 2 by OMGClayDol

OMGClayDol continues his review of his Sunday Million session.

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  • Game: mttsng
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  • 64 minutes long
  • Posted 10 months ago

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SwampRooster

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Time Link to 00:37:53

with the K4 you stated a 3 bet is something that you might have done, but since you folded what kind of hand would you have 3 bet any specific range? Also is it profitable to call with a weak king like that thinking he could be raising almost any thing? Sorry about all the questions but one last thing does the play change a lot in your opinion when you hit the money?

Posted 10 months ago

YongGook

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Time Link to 01:02:01

In this hand where were you in relation to the average chip stack sizes? You seem to have a decent amount of chips on this table. When I first saw this I thought it was too much of a risk to get it all in on the flop with a check raise.

After looking at it more closely I agree with what you have done but I still think it is a higher variance play even though they would be folding a lot of their hands and you have good equity against most of there ranges. In huge volume tournaments like the Sunday Million are these the kind of risks you have to take to build a big stack to challenge for the final table? Were there any other reads/reasons that you had which weren't explained in the video?

Posted 10 months ago

OMGClayDol

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Hey any hand really would be fine, the better it plays postflop, the better a hand it is to 3-bet in general, and also a blocker or blockers helps. For example having x means it is less likely villain has a hand to continue with, similarly Kx. K2o, K2s, Q5s, 96s etc are all fine. Calling a weak king is fine, but kinda marginal, and depends a lot on both your and villains postflop ability. In general you have an advantage as you have position and are getting sick pot odds.

Posted 10 months ago

OMGClayDol

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In this hand where were you in relation to the average chip stack sizes? You seem to have a decent amount of chips on this table. When I first saw this I thought it was too much of a risk to get it all in on the flop with a check raise.

After looking at it more closely I agree with what you have done but I still think it is a higher variance play even though they would be folding a lot of their hands and you have good equity against most of there ranges. In huge volume tournaments like the Sunday Million are these the kind of risks you have to take to build a big stack to challenge for the final table? Were there any other reads/reasons that you had which weren't explained in the video?



Not sure exactly, but definitely had one of the biggest stacks. It's not that risky or high variance, since he will fold a decent amount of the time, and if called we have at least 30% equity and often significantly more. You generally have to be willing to get in flips or races etc, and often shoving, 3-bet shoving, getting in strong draws on the flop or whatever when standard can't be avoided. Hope for the best and try to hold when ahead, and suck out when behind Wink

No particular reads, like I said a decent reg will often stab this flop with his entire preflop calling range since it is one we mostly check.fold, if we check..

Posted 10 months ago

arjunt1

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Time Link to 00:10:52

You say here its good to bet small here, but what do you think with your image about betting pot to a little over pot to look like you want to just shut out the other big stack in the hand and giving him more of a chance to come over the top? Won't it look like you are just isolating vs the all-in? If he has nothing he's probably folding to any size bet, and if he has something given the board texture I feel like he's calling a pot sized bet on the turn as often as he calls a small bet?

I feel like this is a spot since you have position that you'll get a lot of marginal hands to float your turn bet and either shove river or check river giving you an easy check behind. It seems like a lot of players don't really recognize dry side pots and needing to actually beat the all-in even if they push you off the pot.

Posted 10 months ago

DAKKE13

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OMGClayDol

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OMGClayDol

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You say here its good to bet small here, but what do you think with your image about betting pot to a little over pot to look like you want to just shut out the other big stack in the hand and giving him more of a chance to come over the top? Won't it look like you are just isolating vs the all-in? If he has nothing he's probably folding to any size bet, and if he has something given the board texture I feel like he's calling a pot sized bet on the turn as often as he calls a small bet?

I feel like this is a spot since you have position that you'll get a lot of marginal hands to float your turn bet and either shove river or check river giving you an easy check behind. It seems like a lot of players don't really recognize dry side pots and needing to actually beat the all-in even if they push you off the pot.



Hey sorry about missing this comment, I saw it on my laptop and was planning to reply to it later and forgot for a while..

Anyway I think in general this spot is just where decent regs should be calling bets fairly tight. There is way less incentive for someone to bluff, and therefore people will bluff less meaning their range is stronger to bet. Because of this people should also call tighter and not bluff catch too much. Even if I have a crazy image it doesn't really make sense for me to bluff pot here at all, since even if I get him to fold a better hand, if I have air I often don't even win the pot since the guy who is already all-in will just win the side pot. I do agree it's possible that a bigger bet will be called or may be more +EV than my sized bet since his calling range may not change too much with my bet size and even if he folds a little more to a bigger bet, I make more when he calls the bigger bet the times he calls.

Anyway I also think it's extremely unlikely he bluffs me regardless of the sizing for similar reasons to above. You are right a lot of players make the mistake of not recognizing the dynamics etc of a dry side pot in a situation like this but I generally assume a player who seems to be a decentish reg will understand the basics of it and not make random bluffs.

Let me know if you have any other questions or if this answers your question, I have just played like 8 hrs straight or something so may not have the sharpest mind Wink

Posted 9 months ago

mad1lee

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Time Link to 01:03:02

Isn't it kinda spewy (and imo really bad) to open this light utg with 22 bbs with A3s right after we've lost the huge pot?

Posted 3 months ago

GoPackGo

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Can you go over the math behind the 11-13 blind 3bet shove where you explained how wide your range can be and said its not really that bad to have 30% equity versus a calling range because of the bb's we immediatley pick up in comparison to our stack size?
I know this is a newer concept, maybe its not, but I was a reg a few years ago from the states and just started getting back into it and noticed this concept is pretty popular among thinking vs thinking players.

Posted 3 months ago

GoPackGo

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How do you justify folding the 7's at 12.5k-25k vs a co open and a button 20 bb shove?

Posted 3 months ago

OMGClayDol

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Can you go over the math behind the 11-13 blind 3bet shove where you explained how wide your range can be and said its not really that bad to have 30% equity versus a calling range because of the bb's we immediatley pick up in comparison to our stack size?
I know this is a newer concept, maybe its not, but I was a reg a few years ago from the states and just started getting back into it and noticed this concept is pretty popular among thinking vs thinking players.



I don't remember which hand you are talking about. But yes it can be fine to make a light-ish shove with a hand that has somewhat poor equity vs. a calling range if we have enough fold equity.. It's fairly simple math really, % fold x pot + average gain/loss when called (equity vs. range x pot - our stack if we fold).

Like you suggested it's because we pick up so much when they fold, that they don't have to fold that often, and obviously the shallower we are, the less fold equity we need with weaker hands

Posted 3 months ago

OMGClayDol

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How do you justify folding the 7's at 12.5k-25k vs a co open and a button 20 bb shove?



Again I don't remember the exact hand but that sounds incredibly standard of a fold, most BTNs are not shoving 22-66 always (especially like 22 33 44 I guess), or wide with 20BB in general especially in this tourney. Vs. some CO + BTN combos it could be a call but readless or vs. the players I folded against it probably was super standard. 88 being close 99 being a get in.

Posted 3 months ago

GoPackGo

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Ok that makes sense, thanks for the reply.

Posted 3 months ago




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