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BoxOhLuck

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http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1815095

Only the first orbit of the tourney so not much info on anybody. Didn't 3bet because I didn't wanna flip and there was a huge fish in the bb. Idk what he would do this with, all I know is 9/10 times I call some huge bet on the river after they take a weird ck/call line it's usually some form of nuts so I folded. Maybe he can have A7s or QQ for value, and I don't think he's bluffing almost ever. So is it fine to fold or are my assumptions wrong?

What about bet sizing? Maybe I should bet bigger seeing as it's very early in the tourney so it's probably more likely villain will be a fish.

Does anybody start potting here? I just can't seem to bring myself to pot because I think it makes me look like I almost always have a good draw / made hand, the most I probably end up betting is like 195-230 flop, 480-620 turn, 1250-1500ish river.

I think you need to pot, pot, pot to get the money in but should I be trying to get his whole stack here or do you think people fold too often when you pot and slightly smaller bets that leave him with 500-700 chips may be better?

Posted 12 months ago

rrumsey

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easy 3 bet pre this deep. flatting is fine, but i think its an easy 3 bet for value

Posted 11 months ago

rrumsey

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btw i think it has to be a call, his line doesn't rep much asides from a busted flush draw.

Posted 11 months ago

BoxOhLuck

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I can't see anyone checking back a FD in a spot where they typically have so much fold equity. For whats it's worth this guy turned out to have some clue as to what to do. And I have trouble seeing how 3betting here does anything but invite a shit storm of variance, the monster fish in the BB will be able to make up for any value I lose from UTG.

Posted 11 months ago

Ecno

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Whilst in the heat of the moment I porbably end up snapping this in the cool light of a forum I like a fold. If we fold we still have pretty much a starting stack and can go from there. If we call we're playing short for a while. As you said there's a massive fish on the table so we might be able to get a better spot later. From an actual what does he have perspective I know his line doesn't rep much but it's a massive river bet.he could be attempting to slow play a monster and doesn't want to leave it up to you on the river to place another bet.

Posted 11 months ago

rrumsey

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Ecno, you just focus on " if we lose" rather then the ev of calling

Posted 11 months ago

Ecno

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I think it's a -ev play because his river pot donking range I think heavily leans towards hands that beat us. 2pair or set (especially when we know he knows roughly what he is doing). Even if this was a marginally +ev call I'd still probably fold as we can probably pass up this spot for better ones later in the tournament,

Posted 11 months ago




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