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Adriano85

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hey guys,

my PFR is 16% in HM2.

My unopened PFR per position is 17(utg) , 19 , 24 , 47 , 21(sb).

The average of my UO PFR is 24%.

Why is my PFR only 16%?

Am I missing something?

Thanks!

Posted about 1 year ago

Loiner

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I think it's because calling is part of the PFR-stat. For example if you call a UTG-raise on the button you had a chance to raise but didn't. Thats why that stat goes down.

But the unopened stat doesn't go down since UTG did open the pot.

Correct me if wrong.

Posted about 1 year ago

euEra

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3 betting impacts your pfr aswell i believe.

Posted about 1 year ago

SCS

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You are going to be much tighter when someone else has opened the pot before you, which brings the averages down.

So when someone else opens the pot, your pfr becomes your 3bet%.

Posted about 1 year ago

Adriano85

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You are going to be much tighter when someone else has opened the pot before you, which brings the averages down.

So when someone else opens the pot, your pfr becomes your 3bet%.



thanks, makes sense. So I need to 3bet more to have less nitty stats right? because my UO % looks fine or not?

Posted about 1 year ago

improva

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SB should be much much higher. Against many player it is +ev to open 100%

Posted about 1 year ago

Mr Riot

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SB should be much much higher. Against many player it is +ev to open 100%



This. I use the BB fold to SB steall stat and it helps a lot. A bunch of 6max games ends BvB.

Edit: Sorry improva. I saw your ninja moves hereSmile I agree with what you wrote, so i'll let it stay.

Posted about 1 year ago

Zitouni

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Am I missing something?


Yes sometimes people open the pot before you Wink

Posted about 1 year ago

euEra

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raise first in is a better stat imo, not sure if hem has it but pt3 does

Posted about 1 year ago

SCS

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raise first in is a better stat imo, not sure if hem has it but pt3 does



Pretty sure it does, or you can at least filter for it.

Posted about 1 year ago

Adriano85

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NixonTheGrouch

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thanks, makes sense. So I need to 3bet more to have less nitty stats right? because my UO % looks fine or not?


Don't do things to have less nitty stats; do them because they are more +EV than what you're doing now.

Posted about 1 year ago

Adriano85

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Yes ofcourse. I was just curious how those 2 stats were constructed by HM2.

So PFR = Raise first + 3bet
VPIP = call a raise + call 3bet

Is that correct?

Posted about 1 year ago

SCS

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Yes ofcourse. I was just curious how those 2 stats were constructed by HM2.

So PFR = Raise first + 3bet
VPIP = call a raise + call 3bet

Is that correct?



PFR is anytime you raise preflop, either the first raise, or 3 bet, or 4 bet, etc
VPIP is anytime you put money into the pot, other than the blinds.

Posted about 1 year ago

Adriano85

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