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Just want to follow. Great software btw.

hey can you please comment on this http://resources.pokerstrategy.com/2011/11/02/omaha-equilab-equity-graph.jpg

I already inadvertantly started a mini nerd-war on this on 2+2. I'll probably post to my blog about the differences at some point. I tried to resolve via email with the equilab folks without success, but they may have changed their code in the interim. In a nutshell:

1) They are comparing their graph to a Hand vs. Hand PPT graph. This is an apples and oranges comparison. PPT has two graph algorithms - Hand vs. Hand (where all hands are in effect turned face up), and Hand vs. Range (where we know _our_ hand but the other hand(s) remain a range). Their algorithm is, for lack of a better word, Range vs. Range (where no specific hand is known - only ranges).
2) I believe the equilab graph is less useful than the Hand vs. Range graph. That said, if you are racing a specific hand vs. an opponent range, the answers should be the same. The difference occurs if you race a range vs. a range - PPT turns "our" hand face up, but Equilab does not.
3) I am not convinced their algorithm is 100% sound - I got some very counter-intuitive results with some (admittedly) contrived examples. It may well be they have fixed this since I was last in contact with them, but I cannot be in the business of debugging other people's code (especially not competitors' code).

- Dan @ PPT

Odds Oracle 2.0.2 is out http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle

Includes 6-handed %-of-hands

Odds Oracle 2.0.3 is out http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle
Includes output support with graph for forums. For instance:


Odds Oracle Results (2.03 Professional)
Omaha Hi, Generic syntax
PLAYER_1 AAJT$ds
PLAYER_2 7654
600000 trials (randomized)


What is
the winning hand type
click here to view graph
pair --- Percent=4.6367% --- Count=27820
twopair --- Percent=20.2195% --- Count=121317
trips --- Percent=11.9645% --- Count=71787
strt. --- Percent=30.1988% --- Count=181193
flush --- Percent=15.9988% --- Count=95993
full h. --- Percent=15.0970% --- Count=90582
quads --- Percent=1.5035% --- Count=9021
str. fl. --- Percent=0.3812% --- Count=2287


How often each player flop hand category at least trips
click here to view graph
AAJT$ds --- Percent=19.1623% --- Count=114974
7654 --- Percent=10.6667% --- Count=64000

Odds Oracle 2.0.4 is out http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle

Includes Turn/River equity breakdown

Odds Oracle 2.1 is out http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle

Added weighted range support for omaha, hold'em, omaha-8 (!!!)
Questions/Answers are now auto-saved for you in a directory of your choice.
Added 3-handed and vs. random orderings (percent of hands) for omaha, hold'em, omaha-8.

yo bachfan,
any updates for adding 2-7 to the simulator? Been mainly using 2dimes site.

yo bachfan,
any updates for adding 2-7 to the simulator? Been mainly using 2dimes site.

Sorry, no updates on draw games. There aren't many folks requesting them, and they don't fit very neatly into the PQL framework as it stands. If I do take on draw games, it will likely be as a separate tool.

Fair enough. I've updated the recent PPT software, but the O8 games aren't showing the calculations for the chances of scooping, hitting the high/low, etc. Just the equity stats.
Thanks so far for the software!

Fair enough. I've updated the recent PPT software, but the O8 games aren't showing the calculations for the chances of scooping, hitting the high/low, etc. Just the equity stats.
Thanks so far for the software!

You can get those stats if you hit the "Display" button and choose "Show raw data" or "Show both". I need to work on cleaning up the equity stats display in the app - it should be done either this release or the one right after.

Odds Oracle 2.1.5 is out with a redesigned Range Explorer http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle

2 minute video demo of new Range Explorer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Wi4SVaxkM

Test post ignore please

Odds Oracle 2.1.6 is out today: http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle

Mostly small stuff this release, including "Show Hands", table format for raw data, and "Raw Text" option.

Odds Oracle 2.1.7 is out today: http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle
Minor bug-fix release.

Odds Oracle 2.1.8 is out today: http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle with PokerTracker 4 support

Went to use the oracle again, couldn't do what I wanted(didn't play with it for a ton but) but it seems that it has come a very long way since last time, actually seems to be very good quality atm, well done!

Anyway, when asking questions, is there a way to add a "AND" option like Poker Tracker does? I'm trying to figure out how often a certain range flops a overpair+ against another range consisting of purely PP which also flops a set. Is there anyway to do this?

Out of curiosity, how come it has PT4 support and not HM2?

Went to use the oracle again, couldn't do what I wanted(didn't play with it for a ton but) but it seems that it has come a very long way since last time, actually seems to be very good quality atm, well done!

Anyway, when asking questions, is there a way to add a "AND" option like Poker Tracker does? I'm trying to figure out how often a certain range flops a overpair+ against another range consisting of purely PP which also flops a set. Is there anyway to do this?

Yes - when you formulate a question, click on the little circle with a plus on it and you can create AND, OR, and NOT.

Out of curiosity, how come it has PT4 support and not HM2?

I am waiting to hear back from the HM folks on API support - they are working on it.

Odds Oracle 2.2 is out today: http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle with a Hold'em Range Picker that doesn't suck.

Anyway I can get PPT to run some sort of flop simulation or something, that basically divides different flop textures into categories, and represents the likelihood that they will appear? Or something like that. I basically want to know what my general continuation range frequency is going to be with different preflop/postflop strategies.

Yes, something like this can be done with PQL. Here is a sample query to get you started:

select histogram(case
when boardInRange('xxx') then 'flushing board'
when boardInRange('[A-T][A-T]*') then 'top-heavy'
when boardInRange('xxy') then 'flush-draw board'
else 'other'
end)
from game='omahahi', syntax='Generic',
PLAYER_1='JsTs8c7d'

What would be the main benefits of the desktop version, compared to doing the calcs online? Answers from both the author and the users of the SW appreciated

The main benefit is that the downloadable version can do a lot more than what can be done on the website. The whole idea of the Odds Oracle is to provide a general-purpose platform for asking probability questions; all-in equity is just the most popular question you can ask.

I'd recommend grabbing a free trial here:

http://propokertools.com/odds_oracle/trial_license_key

Then you can play around. There's a brief walkthrough here:

http://propokertools.com/oracle_help/walkthrough_1

Also be sure to check out the Range Explorer under the Tools menu.

Cheers,
Dan/bachfan/PPT-dude

Thanks, I've already played around with the trial a bit. Can't I get the same answers with some creative PQL:ing via the web client?