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NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
SB ($18.90)
BB ($16.98)
UTG ($31.84)
UTG+1 ($20.39)
CO ($12.34)
Hero ($20.45)

Dealt to Hero A A

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.60, fold, Hero raises to $1.80, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $1.20

FLOP ($3.90) 7 6 2

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.60, UTG+1 calls $2.60

TURN ($9.10) 7 6 2 T

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $6.10, UTG+1 calls $6.10

RIVER ($21.30) 7 6 2 T T

UTG+1 bets $9.89 (AI), Hero calls $9.89

vs 24/18

This i think its probs a river fold.

I'd say this is pretty standard isn't it?
I'd assume he bets sets bigger on this flop that isnt so dry and might hit a SB calling range and I'd assume further that he just calls all his other vbets on this flop when we chr because we rep pretty polarized and also not that much and there are no draws available against which he could want to protect which leaves a lot of air / gutshot / weak-pair-that-doesnt-want-to-call-because-it-cant-continue-on-many-turns-and-wants-you-to-fold-your-air-equity type of stuff for his raising-it-back range or am I just too spewy without reads?

Pretty much... not convinced its standard for other micro guys though? could be wrong though.

against the super fit or fold types, I sometimes adjust my bet size down on these boards; I can't imagine that you're playing fit or fold though... so def a mistake on villain's part; and then he's "heard" that raises on dry boards rep nothing, so he 3bets it.
Padawan is here and taking notes.

Think I'm tilting people... dude said he was gunner quit poker lolz

Pffft. You think he is bluffing, so you rebluff him with A hi. What a noob.

Pffft. You think he is bluffing, so you rebluff him with A hi. What a noob.

Lol

Pretty much... not convinced its standard for other micro guys though? could be wrong though.

i'm c/f'ing the flop, so you are not wrong. gl 3bet!

i'm c/f'ing the flop, so you are not wrong. gl 3bet!

Think more about ranges and what he cbets and how likely your villian is to just be a pussy and fold.

Think more about ranges and what he cbets and how likely your villian is to just be a pussy and fold.

So you base the 4bet OTF on the fact that he's just a pussy? Because in my experience in the micros, most players don't have a flop 4bet bluffing range. ha ha

Think more about ranges and what he cbets and how likely your villian is to just be a pussy and fold.

i keep forgetting the pussy factor.

does our hand matter here? are we thinking we're blocking AK or that we have some backdoor outs (straight and clubs)?

The pussy comment was more if he would fold to the c/r and honestly you will find a ton of villians who will fold down to premiums here so i think folding is bad especially when his range is so air heavy in this spot. The back door outs are a plus for sure

btw i wouldn't recommend 5beting flop vs most but i think c/r ing good boards will get you a fair amount of folds as from what i have seen people even time down want to play back but ultimately pussy out

The pussy comment was more if he would fold to the c/r and honestly you will find a ton of villians who will fold down to premiums here so i think folding is bad especially when his range is so air heavy in this spot. The back door outs are a plus for sure

You x/r because your assumption was that he folds down to premiums, but then he doesn't fold, so you 4bet? Seems contradictory - or was he just an unknown and you expect unknowns to fold a lot (player population read), but when he makes a small 3bet after cbetting so small you scratch your initial player population assumption and assume he's still air heavy and full of it?

I agree with your line, but just saying the quoted logic seems incomplete. I think your assumptions were that a) he folds a lot and b) when he doesn't fold, he calls his strong hands the majority of the time, thus making a x/r/4bet line best and a give up if called line best?

Well, it's not as though he didn't have any equity. He did have two backdoor draws and maybe an over card.

Edit: looking at the hand again, he has even more than two backdoor draws... he has like 4 or 5

i cant believe i only just found this thread. Nice work 3bet nice to see someone giving back to the community! And gl with the prop bet, (unless you play on my site).

i think i know where my objection's coming from. i don't click it back enough. if i was to 4bet this spot (i understand, not advised), i'd prob go allin and get called by 88.

Will we get to see a graph?