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blah234

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Review of the plays by Por2ugeeguy 50NL on cereus network

any questions or comments please post in this thread and I will try to answer them.

http://membervideos.deucescracked.com/blah234/10292/port2ugeeguy50NL.mp4

Posted over 2 years ago

Por2ugeeguy

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Once again, great video Blah! Watching myself play really put a microscope on my leaks. One of them being leverage points, which I thought I did pretty well at, but the bet sizing was way off in some spots and the 4 bet "standard" is, I would say 2.25x, which mine was mistakenly close to 3x.

Another bet sizing issue is raising the smaller donk or stab bets, I raised too much, sometimes 4-5x the small donk bet, and I realized that I can just get away with 3x.

However, there was one thing you mentioned that was very interesting, while also contradicting a video Baluga made. Now, a lot of the times I watch baluga's mid stakes to high stake videos and know I can't apply all the strategy to the micros. In one of baluga's videos he specifically identified spots to Squeeze when the pfr is a reg and the caller is a recreational player, because his reasoning was that it would allow you to fold the pfr reg and iso the fish caller. In my video, you mentioned that you don't want to squeeze light when the fish is the caller, because you want to mostly value bet at these levels.

1. I'm torn, does baluga's reasoning not apply to the micros? I would think it could, and I kind of like the reasoning of squeezing when you have the reg as the pfr and the caller as a fish, because again if they all fold you win and if the reg folds and the fish calls, you don't mind that because of the isolation value. What's your thoughts and the application of this in the micros? I think the adjustment though is the frequency when applying this, and I would say that you definitely want to be value squeezing more in the micros, but this idea has merit, right?

2. While the video is still fresh in your mind, can you think of any other ways I could improve and what adjustments a 50nl player like myself would need to add to their arsenal to beat 100nl?

I still want to rewatch the video, I'm sure I can find other misplayed spots. It was definitely awesome seeing a trained eye dissect my play. It reassured me in the plays that I did correctly, while putting attention on costly leaks (bet sizing, leverage points, 4 bet size).

Much appreciated Blah! Your videos inspired me to reexamine my stagnant game. I'm even taking up a coaching session and would like to have coaching from you one day. In the meantime if there is anything I can do to help you reach your goal, let me know.

Thanks

Randy

Posted over 2 years ago

Por2ugeeguy

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Great Podcast by the way. I didn't know you moved up the ranks so quickly. By any chance do you have a list of the videos you watched from DC during your journey up the ranks? Your story is inspirational to us micro/ low stake grinders.

Posted over 2 years ago

mrcleanhands

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Hi
just curious

15:40
you call a 3B from SB. His range is super tight given he's 3B a UTG opener, don't you think AJs is abit loose here?

Even with a few bluffs in his range I think AJs is hard even in position to play, unless you flop equity like you did.

if I was villain I would also check/fold my AA on that river. Vs a tight range when we flop such good equity we are probably better just jamming it in right?



18:00
blah you say we should raise up K8s vs a $7 stack to isolate. Why?
Can't we just check- if we hit something good we can get his stack anyway. Its not like were going to have much fold equity. We don't need to worry bout getting stacks in by the river...



Also in regards to bet sizing:
I thought it interesting that you said hero should size his bets so villain can make more mistakes, i.e. bet smaller so villain doesn't have $15 behind and the pot is $80.

Can you maybe explain this abit more? If we bet small aren't we letting him see cheap turns? also if he has no money behind he is pretty much priced in to call by the turn/river with any pair...

Posted over 2 years ago

blah234

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Port2ugeeguy: What balugawhale said mean is that if you squeeze when reg raise and fish calls you are more likely to get HU with the fish. You should be bluffing the reg and value betting the fish so you should be squeezing with value hands vs the fish's range. When you squeeze with hands that have no equity advantage vs the fish and he calls, then you are the one making a mistake. This concept applys post flop as well, you can be value betting the fish and bluffing the reg. To improve further you need to start looking at villain's tendencies while fixing any existing leaks. Think about how what is the best play vs that particular player instead of what is the best play in general.

Posted over 2 years ago

blah234

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Hi
just curious

15:40
you call a 3B from SB. His range is super tight given he's 3B a UTG opener, don't you think AJs is abit loose here?

Even with a few bluffs in his range I think AJs is hard even in position to play, unless you flop equity like you did.

if I was villain I would also check/fold my AA on that river. Vs a tight range when we flop such good equity we are probably better just jamming it in right?



18:00
blah you say we should raise up K8s vs a $7 stack to isolate. Why?
Can't we just check- if we hit something good we can get his stack anyway. Its not like were going to have much fold equity. We don't need to worry bout getting stacks in by the river...



Also in regards to bet sizing:
I thought it interesting that you said hero should size his bets so villain can make more mistakes, i.e. bet smaller so villain doesn't have $15 behind and the pot is $80.

Can you maybe explain this abit more? If we bet small aren't we letting him see cheap turns? also if he has no money behind he is pretty much priced in to call by the turn/river with any pair...



Calling the 3 bet is a bit loose but if villain has any bluffs then we can call with AJs since its near the top of our calling range. If we want to call ever then that hand isn't bad to do it with. Do you mean jamming the flop with our FD? Vs a tight range you DO NOT want to be semibluffing because FE is reduced with tighter range. Jamming the flop is also hard to balance because it's expensive if you do it with bluffs.

we should be isolating the fish with alot of stuff if they will c/f to a small cbet. We don't need to iso raise big but we should try to play as many pots as we can vs those players,

Bet sizing. Vs random fish it doesn't matter how much you make it. Vs a reg who has clue on whats going on, then they will know you can't rep a bluff when you leave them with small amount of money left so they go into jam or fold mode. When you give them more options they are more likely to make a mistake. They can call, raise or fold instead of just ship or fold.

Posted over 2 years ago

Por2ugeeguy

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Hey blah, on the AJs hand where I call the 3 bet ip and flop nfd calling the c bet, then when I hit the turn I called again, what if the turn was a blank would you ever semi bluff shove vs the tight range or would you assess the odds and potentially fold if not enough implied odds to call villains turn bet.

Also what if villain cks a brick turn? Here I would ck behind and either value bet if river hits me or bluff the river if villain cks river, since after clking turn and river seems pretty weak especially on a drawy flop, and I could rep a top pair hand, granted I could have busted fdraws in my range as well, but I'd think villain would think that I would play these fdraws faster by either raising the flop or floating the turn. Are these good alternative lines if hand played out
differently?

Posted over 2 years ago

mrcleanhands

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Yes, I meant jam the FD. (AJs).

There are a lot of people who c-bet big and if we just call we would have to fold most turns b/c we don't have the correct implied odds. If he c-bets and we ship with nut fd we are pushing all our equity and make sure we keep it.

Posted over 2 years ago

blah234

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Yes, I meant jam the FD. (AJs).

There are a lot of people who c-bet big and if we just call we would have to fold most turns b/c we don't have the correct implied odds. If he c-bets and we ship with nut fd we are pushing all our equity and make sure we keep it.



and give up any postion advantage. Why can't you jam turn if they bet big again and make them fold a huge pot to you? They don't need to fold much for your turn jam to show a profit if you do the math. If they don't bet the turn we can then bet turn or take free card and bluff river. As you can see when you got position jamming is the worst option unless it's for value but not as a semibluff.


@Port2ugeeguy how we play NFD in this 3 bet pot is based on the villain. Instead of figuring out how to play certain hand, we need to go one step further and look at all the options. Then figure out which option is best for each villain.

Posted over 2 years ago

Por2ugeeguy

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Hey Blah,

are there any series that you can recommend for players exploiting different player types. Baluga's theory as face value was attractive since it was simple: 2 types of bad player, Bad agg and Bad passive. Main objective is to value bet, and vs. bad agg, tend to call down wider and fold top pair hands vs. any aggression with a Bad passive.

However as we move up we must adjust to more reg's. Was there any series that really helped you make this transition from exploiting bad players to now exploiting reg's which start to prevail as you move up.

Posted over 2 years ago

Por2ugeeguy

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I just found a new series call "the thin redline" which in ep. 1 does a decent job in opening up my standard game, focusing on targeting different player types. The rabbit hole gets deeper, doesn't it... very interesting.

Thanks again Blah, at first my reaction to your advice of "instead of focusing on how to play a hand, focus on how to play vs. player typs": was, how can I deviate from my standard game when I'm not winning as much as I want from ABC, maybe the answer is: I should start deviating from my general standard game dissect my play vs. specific player tendencies.

I will experiment.

Posted over 2 years ago

StueysKid

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Enjoyed the video. Aren't you the hero that would watch the video review with the sound off and then re-watch for Nan's advise? I did that the first half of the vid

The primary hand I have a question about is the KHeartQHeart in the cut off when hero iso's the fish and the button 3bets, I think this was about 15 minutes into the vid.

I have no read on this villain, and the advise given was good - but I'd still like to perhaps discuss what sort of hands the button would do this with. What's a typical sort of range construction for the button here?

I'm thinking he should be polarized. Any hand that plays decently well is going to want to see the flop in position against the fish and the wide-ish iso cut off range. His value hands would hope for a call or 4bet while his Ax, KJo, QJo type stuff want a fold. Would having a post flop read on villain change your mind on whether or not to fold, call, or 4bet bluff? What sort of read do you want? Specifically, It would be nice to know when you might actually flat this.

And I happen to agree with earlier poster about the ASpadeJSpade in the small blind. This wasn't discussed in the video much, but I didn't like the 3bet and I thought the value bets post flop were thinner against a decent player (against a garbage player they're good)

Posted over 2 years ago

StueysKid

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Question for Por2ugeeguy...

What's your opinion of the 50NL jackpot tables? Do you find it fairly easy to overcome the rake bleed, or have you given it much thought at all?

Posted over 2 years ago

Por2ugeeguy

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Hey StueysKid,

I really haven't put much thought into the extra jackpot rake. The softer tables at AP more than compensates.

Posted over 2 years ago




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